The generalized Sierpinski-Mazurkiewicz theorem.
post by Donald Hobson (donald-hobson) · 2022-07-29T00:12:18.763Z · LW · GW · 4 commentsContents
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Suppose any uncountable set and any countable set of bijective transformations .
Then assuming that for all pairs of distinct finite sequences of transformations and that the set is countable.
Then there exists a set partitioned into such that ..
Proof.
Consider the set of all sequences of transformations (type signature )
Form the equivalence relation by
This is the sequences that are the same up to a finite number of insertions, deletions and replacements. Discard all the sequences equivalent to any cyclic sequence. (A sequence is cyclic if . Think if these like the digits of rationals, they might do all sorts of things at first, but eventually they repeat the same thing over and over) Call the set of remaining sequences .
Pick a representative of each equivalence class. Call this set of representatives .
Note that each equivalence class is countable, as for any then can be represented by as the rest of the sequence can be filled in using the equivalence relation . Use countable union of countable sets a lot.
Note that, given any function can be uniquely extended into a function such that . Use the rule . This is well defined because, if we increment both and , then we are just applying an extra function and inverse. But those cancel each other out, by the condition in the equivalence relation. Also is a fixed constant for particular and , because we ruled out all eventually cyclic sequences.
Pick any . For any , there must be only countably many such that the extension of has . Looking at the definition of the generalization above, we see its a finite composition of bijections. So Generalize: is a bijection (type ). Let where are such that . Then and . But the set of overlaps between and are countable (this is where we use that strange condition) And the generalization is a bijective function of .. So this rules out a countable number of
Now there are countably many , so given the uncountability of , its possible to choose such that .
This lets us define . Where
Originally my proof tried to use transfinite induction to construct this for every , and keep them all from overlapping. Then I realized that I only needed a single , which made the proof simpler.
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comment by johnswentworth · 2022-07-29T00:44:20.588Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
Huh, that's a really cool theorem. Someone should make a distillation of this post with cool fractal visualizations (see e.g. Chaos Games for some idea of the relation).
Replies from: donald-hobson↑ comment by Donald Hobson (donald-hobson) · 2022-07-29T13:41:28.642Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
Sure. The image is kind of a diffuse cloud of points. Its actually dense on the plane. But I can still kind of plot it by gradually fading points out. The transforms I used are shifting right by 0.1 and rotating clockwise by 1 radian. Ie this image is K, st shift_right(K) Rotate_clockwise(K)=K
Replies from: johnswentworth↑ comment by johnswentworth · 2022-07-29T16:03:44.562Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
That does not look like it will be mapped into a subset of itself if I shift it right by 0.1.
Replies from: donald-hobson↑ comment by Donald Hobson (donald-hobson) · 2022-07-30T10:35:47.806Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
Here is a link (as lesswrong doesn't seem to support animated gifs in comments)
https://i.imgur.com/CHXYOZf.gif
Note that the points are gradually fading out, if you shift a bright point right by 0.1, you find a slightly fainter point.