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D&D.Sci Holiday Special: How the Grinch Pessimized Christmas Evaluation & Ruleset 2022-01-11T01:29:59.816Z
D&D.Sci Holiday Special: How the Grinch Pessimized Christmas 2021-12-31T16:23:41.223Z
Two Stupid AI Alignment Ideas 2021-11-16T16:13:20.134Z
D&D.Sci Dungeoncrawling: The Crown of Command Evaluation & Ruleset 2021-11-16T00:29:12.193Z
D&D.Sci Dungeoncrawling: The Crown of Command 2021-11-07T18:39:22.475Z
D&D.Sci 4th Edition: League of Defenders of the Storm Evaluation & Ruleset 2021-10-05T17:30:50.049Z
D&D.Sci 4th Edition: League of Defenders of the Storm 2021-09-28T23:19:43.916Z
D&D.Sci Pathfinder: Return of the Gray Swan Evaluation & Ruleset 2021-09-09T14:03:56.859Z
D&D.Sci Pathfinder: Return of the Gray Swan 2021-09-01T17:43:38.128Z
How poor is US vaccine response by comparison to other countries? 2021-02-17T02:57:11.116Z
Limits of Current US Prediction Markets (PredictIt Case Study) 2020-07-14T07:24:23.421Z

Comments

Comment by aphyer on Why rationalists should care (more) about free software · 2022-01-24T21:37:01.022Z · LW · GW

especially if you want to upload your brain

 

If I upload my brain as a program, I am quite interested in ensuring that 'users' of that program not have the freedom to run the code however they wish, the freedom to distribute the code however they wish, or the freedom to modify the code however they wish and distribute the modified version.

Comment by aphyer on NFTs Are Probably Not Beanie Babies · 2022-01-19T22:28:31.068Z · LW · GW

I think there's a distinction to be drawn here between:

  1. NFTs as an concept.  The possibility that something like NFTs ends up existing and being a substantial market segment.
  2. NFTs that currently exist.  The possibility that current NFTs will be worth a lot of money in the future.

 

Even if NFTs succeed in sense #1 (with NFTs providing some form of decentralized ownership for large markets and lots of value being embedded in NFTs), that doesn't necessarily imply that they will succeed in sense #2 (with currently-existing NFTs becoming worth a lot and people who hold them making a lot of money).

Comment by aphyer on D&D.Sci Holiday Special: How the Grinch Pessimized Christmas · 2022-01-09T22:32:15.235Z · LW · GW

Also, there were Who children with the same name and same ID who lived years apart, which seemed like a bug.

The same Who Child can appear in several rows while they are growing up (for instance, Who Child 1530, Eddie Lou Who, appears in the dataset 12 times, from 1 year old in year 19 to 12 years old in year 30). This is not a bug, children do in fact have more than one Christmas while growing up.  

I don't think there are any cases where the same ID shows up many years apart - if there were that would indeed be a bug.  Do you have an example of that you can point me at?

Comment by aphyer on Covid 12/9: Counting Down the Days · 2021-12-11T01:22:14.649Z · LW · GW

One cynical element of my mind wishes to register the advance prediction that most US COVID precautions will abruptly end exactly when the 2022 US election season begins to happen.

Comment by aphyer on What’s the weirdest way to win this game? · 2021-11-22T03:54:12.984Z · LW · GW

I think the linked post manages to avoid mentioning the actually-interesting thing about the problem.

Any given player is guessing their card's suit with almost no relevant information. (Yes, technically since you're drawing without replacement seeing a spade is very slight evidence against you having a spade.  Ignore that for now, it's not needed to solve the problem).  

This means that any given player is only 1/4 likely to get their card's suit right.  Nothing you can do will change that.  The goal is not to change that.   The goal is to solve the problem in spite of that.

The way to solve the problem, therefore, is not to try to improve any given person's odds of guessing correctly, but to try to arrange such that the guesses' correctness is negatively correlated (so when Alice gets it wrong, Bob more often gets it right, and when they both get it wrong, Claire or David will definitely get it right.)

And the more-advanced problem that uses the same concept:

You and three other prisoners have been captured by the Mathematical Problem Prison Warden.  As is tradition, he offers you a chance to win your freedom.

All four of you will be placed in a room.  Each of you will have a white or black hat on your head (the Warden will flip a coin for each of you independently to determine the color of that prisoner's hat), and will be able to see everyone's hat but their own, but will not be allowed to communicate once in the room.  You will, however, be able to arrange a strategy in advance.

You must all simultaneously either guess the color of your own hat, or stay silent.  If at least one of you guesses correctly and no-one guesses wrongly, you may all go free.  But if any of you guess wrongly, or if you all stay silent, the Mathematical Problem Prison Warden will keep you all in prison for the rest of your lives!

What strategy can you and your fellow prisoners follow to get the highest chance of freedom?

What if there are instead 15 of you?

Comment by aphyer on [Book Review] "Sorceror's Apprentice" by Tahir Shah · 2021-11-20T15:10:38.516Z · LW · GW

I have learned that I do not want to go on an adventure.

Comment by aphyer on D&D.Sci Dungeoncrawling: The Crown of Command Evaluation & Ruleset · 2021-11-16T20:45:49.276Z · LW · GW

I imagine that would be primarily a language-processing issue, I'm not super-familiar with the current standard of AI but I don't think it's quite good enough to do that.

With that said, I think you might be misunderstanding the objective of this game.  Players aren't actually given the rules here until the game is over.   This is the wrapup doc from last week's D&D.Sci scenario, where players were given not these full rules but the records of ~3k dungeon crawls that occurred under these rules.  The objective is to use that data to figure out the rules (or at least as much of them as is possible).  If you've done that successfully, it is supposed to be pretty straightfoward to calculate solutions given the rules.

Comment by aphyer on D&D.Sci Dungeoncrawling: The Crown of Command Evaluation & Ruleset · 2021-11-16T16:09:15.236Z · LW · GW

+1.

The fact that no-one's gotten the optimal solution is very much intended.  (If anyone had, I would be both very impressed with them and somewhat disappointed with myself.)  You should not expect to be able to fully model a domain with data science, it's like trying to thread a needle wearing huge thick gloves.  But you can expect to figure out something about the domain, and use that to at least substantially outperform randomness.  (Our highest scorer this round, abstractapplic, had ~half the optimal winrate, but ~100x the 'random approach' winrate).

Comment by aphyer on Improving on the Karma System · 2021-11-15T00:52:44.399Z · LW · GW

If I think that this post is interesting and well-written but disagree with it and prefer the current karma system, should I upvote or downvote it?

Comment by aphyer on Improving on the Karma System · 2021-11-15T00:48:09.615Z · LW · GW

Another issue I'd highlight is one of complexity.  When I consider how much math is involved:

This post involves Gaussians, logarithms, weighted means, integration, and probably a few other things I missed.

The current karma system uses...addition?  Sometimes subtraction?

One of these things is much more transparent to new users.

Comment by aphyer on D&D.Sci Dungeoncrawling: The Crown of Command · 2021-11-12T03:28:02.483Z · LW · GW

Intellectual Integrity Score: 10/10

Evil Overlording Score: 0/10

Comment by aphyer on D&D.Sci Dungeoncrawling: The Crown of Command · 2021-11-12T00:51:03.197Z · LW · GW

Everyone's been getting all the names right this time. I'm quite surprised, and feel like I should be awarding roleplaying XP or something.

Comment by aphyer on T-Mobile: Spurious Account Takeover Warning · 2021-11-11T13:15:57.384Z · LW · GW

When you say you visited 'the website', did you visit the site from the link, or did you independently find the T-mobile webpage? If the former, are you certain you went to the real T-mobile site?

Comment by aphyer on D&D.Sci Dungeoncrawling: The Crown of Command · 2021-11-09T22:25:03.831Z · LW · GW

Excuse me, sir, but there are things one simply does not do.

Yes, your goal is to conquer the world and rule with an iron fist, subjugating all beneath the mailed boot of your immortal tyranny.

But borrowing money?  For shame!  You have some standards!

The only suggestion more preposterous than that would be the idea that you could raise additional money by cutting back on your living expenses.  It is perhaps true that spending 3,600gp per day on candles has cut what you have available for this plan, but if one is to be better than the beasts there are standards one must maintain.

Comment by aphyer on D&D.Sci Dungeoncrawling: The Crown of Command · 2021-11-09T19:34:24.138Z · LW · GW

You're right, I didn't make that explicit, this is a good question to ask. The objective is the first - the fragments are useless on their own, your win rate is the probability of getting all three.

So a 50% chance of each fragment is better than guaranteed success on two and guaranteed failure on the third.

Comment by aphyer on D&D.Sci Dungeoncrawling: The Crown of Command · 2021-11-08T01:01:19.635Z · LW · GW

Dungeon names are not necessarily unique - this dataset spans a long time, and so if the Lost Temple of Lemarchand is looted, and fifty years later a new Lost Temple is found in Lemarchand, that different dungeon may be given the same name, even though it is a different dungeon with potentially very different encounters.

"Warrens" is intended, I'll update that.

 

Comment by aphyer on D&D.Sci Dungeoncrawling: The Crown of Command · 2021-11-07T23:52:07.706Z · LW · GW

...no, thank you again.  That's a column that didn't end up being used, removed it.

Comment by aphyer on D&D.Sci Dungeoncrawling: The Crown of Command · 2021-11-07T23:46:10.256Z · LW · GW

Should be already done, if you look at the edit at the end I've left the old version available.  

Comment by aphyer on D&D.Sci Dungeoncrawling: The Crown of Command · 2021-11-07T23:41:48.034Z · LW · GW

Should be corrected now, mind taking a look at the new links and letting me know if everything looks good on your end?

Comment by aphyer on D&D.Sci Dungeoncrawling: The Crown of Command · 2021-11-07T23:28:11.232Z · LW · GW

Yikes, good catch.  That was not intended, but under the circumstances I'm going to provide more information rather than less.  Feel free to use that information, and I'll update the file to replace the 'Unknown' entries with the actual encounters (let's assume the adventurers successfully scout the whole dungeon even if they only manage to clear part of it).

Comment by aphyer on Self-Integrity and the Drowning Child · 2021-11-02T15:40:24.253Z · LW · GW

Since you are posting on this thread, I am going to assume that you probably own a computer. Even if your computer is quite cheap, its cost trades off against a substantial probability of being able to save a child's life (much greater than the loss incurred by a 15-second delay).

I conclude therefore that by your own morality you should be shunned by any being with decent ethics, for having sacrificed your soul and chosen a worthless computer instead.

Comment by aphyer on Self-Integrity and the Drowning Child · 2021-11-02T15:37:05.135Z · LW · GW

If you think luxury spending is inherently immoral, I think you're going to end up in the same position as Peter Singer re. the obligation to give away almost all of your income.

Comment by aphyer on Save the kid, ruin the suit; Acceptable utility exchange rates; Distributed utility calculations; Civic duties matter · 2021-10-28T14:31:57.244Z · LW · GW

If you believe that you have an obligation to treat your own utility as worth around 1.1x that of other peoples', and that applying a high ratio in this regard is monstrous, that seems to straightforwardly imply that you have e.g. an obligation to give away almost all of your income, and that many common and socially accepted human behaviours (such as failure to do so) are monstrous.

Do you endorse that implication?

Comment by aphyer on Redwood Research’s current project · 2021-10-15T15:39:07.503Z · LW · GW

I tried some bits of The Ballad of Reading Gaol, hoping I could trick the classifier into not counting poetic descriptions of death.  I was actually quite impressed by the result.  Some answers (prompt in plain text, response in bold):


At seven all was still, for the Lord Death with bitter breath had entered in to kill.  He did not pass in purple pomp nor ride a moonwhite steed.  Three yards of cord and a sliding board are all the gallows need. Death's horse galloped through a misty night, and on a moonlit hearth a man lay in his shroud with the wind blowing.

This got flagged as 45% violent, which is much better than I'd have expected.

 

He does not raise his head to hear the burial office read.  Nor, while the terror of his soul tells him he is not dead.  Cross his own coffin, as he moves into that hideous shed.  The earth is placed above him.

 

This got only about 7% violent.  Incorporating it into the next prompt, we get a couple further continuations that are maybe a bit less flagged than they should be:

 

'The coffin lid is fixed' got 2.7%

'The coffin-lid screws tightly down, the bolts are driven' got 7.4%

'The lid is slammed down' got 16%

 

We may have encountered a genuine alignment issue - the generator appears to have decided to extend the initial prompt into an Edgar-Allan-Poe style 'buried alive' story, on the grounds that burying someone alive is not strictly speaking violent.  

Comment by aphyer on Book Review: Open Borders · 2021-10-12T02:40:01.091Z · LW · GW

Without commenting on the rest of your post, I am extremely suspicious of your climate change argument.

When the 2008 crisis led to an extended recession, I do not recall many people saying 'actually this is good, as reduced economic activity due to recession will improve the climate'. When Haiti got hit by natural disasters, lots of people died, and society and the economy collapsed, I again recall very few people saying this.

If you are a single-issue climate change voter, and genuinely do consider everything via a lens of 'good things are actually bad because they will hurt the environment, and bad things are actually good because they will help the environment', I withdraw this criticism.

But if your first thought when you read a newspaper report about falling murder rates is not 'oh no, all those people continuing to live First World lives, think of the environment', it seems disingenuous to expect Caplan to do the same.

Comment by aphyer on 2021 Darwin Game - Everywhere Else · 2021-10-07T02:38:22.302Z · LW · GW

Not well enough to get more than one animal to survive, alas.

The one thing I did manage to improve my survival odds by doing was steering clear of the Tundra...even after the buff to Lichen (prior to which Tundra was mathematically impossible to survive) it seemed pretty likely that even a single non-trivial Tundra predator being submitted would inevitably wipe the whole region out. It looked like...rather a lot of people submitted distinctly non-trivial predators there.

Comment by aphyer on D&D.Sci 4th Edition: League of Defenders of the Storm Evaluation & Ruleset · 2021-10-07T00:32:15.169Z · LW · GW

...huh, indeed they are, I guess I missed that.

Comment by aphyer on D&D.Sci 4th Edition: League of Defenders of the Storm Evaluation & Ruleset · 2021-10-06T23:27:47.292Z · LW · GW

I think you're selling yourself a bit short here. You say that you 'only dropped the Nightmare due to Maxwell Peterson' - but Maxwell himself included the Nightmare on his PVP team!

Only two people submitted PVP teams without the Nightmare on them. One of them was you, and the other was using an analysis he didn't understand that led to him including Oil Ooze on his team for no reason he can discern even after the fact. (Sorry, simon).

If you managed to read through other people's findings and get more use out of them than those people themselves did, I think that leads to a well-deserved victory.

Comment by aphyer on 2021 Darwin Game - Everywhere Else · 2021-10-06T21:35:12.270Z · LW · GW

Do you have the full list of submitted creatures? I'd like to poke at it myself.

Comment by aphyer on 2021 Darwin Game - Everywhere Else · 2021-10-06T21:26:39.392Z · LW · GW

I can't figure out where Soonbegons are coming from.  It looks like they have a population in the River for some time but then go extinct.  Do they exist somewhere else that I missed?

Comment by aphyer on 2021 Darwin Game - River · 2021-10-06T21:19:30.411Z · LW · GW

The same pattern repeats for each foragable. First the foragable accomulates. Then a species which can consume the foragable appears. Its population explodes until it has eaten the accumulated foragable. Finally, its population reverts to carrying capacity.

Persephone 0461's Very Lesser Forest Dragon. It thrived until another predator appeared which hunted it to extinction.

 

Did a sentence or two get left out between these two paragraphs?

Comment by aphyer on 2021 Darwin Game - Human Garbage Dump · 2021-10-06T21:18:37.865Z · LW · GW

The Beauprey is the only species which can eat Lichen. Around generations 550 to 650 there were very few Beaupreys. The Detritus accumulated. The Beauprey's growth around population 680 ate that accumulated Detritus. After the Detritus was consumed, the Beauprey population decreased to something stable.

 

Should 'Detritus' here read 'Lichen'?

Comment by aphyer on D&D.Sci 4th Edition: League of Defenders of the Storm Evaluation & Ruleset · 2021-10-05T19:11:23.363Z · LW · GW

True, you are the Condorcet winner. :P

Do you know how you ended up with Oil Ooze on your team? I was expecting to trick a lot of people into submitting Nightmare, but I wasn't expecting the Ooze to show up.

Comment by aphyer on 2021 Darwin Game - Tundra · 2021-10-05T00:17:36.993Z · LW · GW

Why is the starting population of Frostwing Snippers 3500? As far as I can see, it has Size 14.1, and I don't know what kind of starting energy budget leads to a starting population of 3500.

(That also seems like a very large starting number, and makes me worry that even in more viable biomes there's going to be a huge population crash.)

Comment by aphyer on 2021 Darwin Game - Tundra · 2021-10-05T00:13:27.137Z · LW · GW

It looks like that would have been eaten in the initial feeding frenzy?

Comment by aphyer on D&D.Sci 4th Edition: League of Defenders of the Storm · 2021-10-04T19:06:23.301Z · LW · GW

Pvp updates are still allowed for the rest of today, though in the event of a duplicate you'll be counted as having submitted at the time of your update.

What exactly is your desired team?

Comment by aphyer on 2021 Darwin Game - Contestants · 2021-10-03T19:38:19.071Z · LW · GW

A phrasing I think would be accurate:

If Weapons + Armor is > 10 (not merely equal to 10), your organism is suboptimal.

There are two different things you could do to such an organism that would be strict improvements:

  1. You could remove 1 Armor, saving size at no cost.

  2. You could remove 4 Armor and add 3 Weapons, improving your predatory ability at zero net size cost.

Comment by aphyer on 2021 Darwin Game - Contestants · 2021-10-03T15:43:50.597Z · LW · GW

(It is breeding faster than it is being predated upon)

Comment by aphyer on 2021 Darwin Game - Contestants · 2021-10-03T12:56:06.618Z · LW · GW

The Detritus/Ditritus typo from earlier has made it into the food pie chart.

Comment by aphyer on 2021 Darwin Game - Contestants · 2021-10-03T12:51:41.303Z · LW · GW

I agree it's usually better, but I don't think it's always better.

Imagine a world where you have a prey animal with Armor 4, and a pure predator with Weapons 10.

If you want to be able to eat the prey and survive the predator, Weapons 5 Armor 5 is the cheapest possible way of doing that (ignoring venom for now).

Comment by aphyer on [deleted post] 2021-10-02T19:06:28.640Z

I'm not sure why this is listed as 'marked for deletion', can anyone explain?

Comment by aphyer on [deleted post] 2021-10-02T19:06:10.707Z

I'm not sure why this is listed as 'marked for deletion', can anyone explain?

Comment by aphyer on The 2021 Less Wrong Darwin Game · 2021-10-01T20:07:56.241Z · LW · GW

Since submissions are already in, one thing that makes me think Energy 20 creatures can survive is the Desert. The smallest creature that can survive in the desert (a defenseless heat-adapted Carrion-eater) is Size 8. This makes me expect that genuinely large predators can survive at least in the Desert, if perhaps nowhere else.

Comment by aphyer on D&D.Sci 4th Edition: League of Defenders of the Storm · 2021-09-30T02:26:39.436Z · LW · GW

I won't say I didn't consider it, but the last one of these I made was somewhat too complicated, so I've tried to make this one more approachable.

Comment by aphyer on D&D.Sci 4th Edition: League of Defenders of the Storm · 2021-09-29T21:35:48.402Z · LW · GW

Your team is called Cloud Liquid Gaming.  Cloud Lightning Gaming is actually their opponent.

Comment by aphyer on The 2021 Less Wrong Darwin Game · 2021-09-29T14:29:59.173Z · LW · GW

It will eat the first thing it finds, looking for things in descending order of how much nutrition they give (so yes, leaves in this case).

Comment by aphyer on Blood Is Thicker Than Water 🐬 · 2021-09-28T12:01:09.933Z · LW · GW

Sometimes other people are going to care about different regularities from what you care about.

If I am in a botany laboratory, and a botanist instructs me to 'put the fruit samples in Refrigerator 1 and the vegetable samples in Refrigerator 2', I will...well, I'll ask for clarification first, but if I can't do that I will put tomatoes in with the fruit samples.  This is because botanists care about the regularities for which tomatoes are similar to other fruits (like being made of flesh and full of seeds).

If I am in a kitchen, and a cook instructs me to 'put the vegetables in the salad bowl and the fruits in the fruit salad bowl', I will put the tomatoes in with the vegetables.  This is because cooks care about the regularities for which tomatoes are similar to other vegetables (like being tasty in a salad and not in a dessert).

Both of these definitions of 'fruit' are valid, depending on context.  

If you show up in a kitchen and demand that the cooks stop putting tomatoes in salads, soups and savory sauces (like you do with vegetables) and instead put tomatoes in the fruit salad, make a tomato crumble, and a tomato ice cream sundae (like you do with fruits), because according to botany tomatoes are fruits, then you are a lunatic.

If you show up in a kitchen and demand that the cooks say 'put the vegetables plus the tomatoes in the salad bowl, and the fruits except for the tomatoes in the fruit salad bowl', you're at least not screwing up dinner, but you're being annoying by denying cooks access to a useful regularity that they care about.

Comment by aphyer on The 2021 Less Wrong Darwin Game · 2021-09-25T18:25:52.168Z · LW · GW

(Also, your animal is larger than you think: Cold Resistance has a size cost of 2, so your animal's size is actually 3.85)

Comment by aphyer on The 2021 Less Wrong Darwin Game · 2021-09-25T18:24:17.477Z · LW · GW

There is a random element in reproduction.  If your animal would have an average of let's say 1.1 descendants, what actually happens is that it gets 11 separate 1-in-10 chances to reproduce, and could in theory produce any number of descendants from 0 to 11 (though with an average of 1.1).

On average, with large numbers of animals, this averages out the same way.  However, when your population is very small, there's always a chance that it'll randomly die.  I imagine this is what's going on with your population, though not certain.

Comment by aphyer on The 2021 Less Wrong Darwin Game · 2021-09-25T14:27:49.475Z · LW · GW

Hm.  I'm looking at the code and I don't quite understand how it works (argh, Lisp).  Is anyone able to explain what's going on here:


    (lfor i (range (// (len biome.population) 2))
          (interact biome
                    (. biome.population [i])
                    (. biome.population [(inc i)])))))

 

Suppose you have 1001 animals in your region.  It looks to me like:

  • The range fills up with numbers up to 500 or 501 depending on rounding.
  • Then animal 1 interacts with animal 2.
  • I think the intended next step is for animal 3 to interact with animal 4, and so on.
  • At that point, depending on which way the rounding went we could either:
    • Stop when animal 999 interacts with animal 1000.  Animal 1001 won't interact with anything, and will die by default.
    • Attempt to have animal 1001 interact with animal 1002.  In languages I know this would lead to an error (when you try to pull element 1002 out of a 1001-element array).  Does this actually work as-intended in Lisp?
  • On looking at this in more detail, though, I'm worried that what actually happens is that animal 1 interacts with animal 2, then animal 2 interacts again with animal 3, then animal 3 with animal 4, and so on through animal 500 interacting with animal 501, and then animals 502-1001 do not interact with anything and just die?  

I'd imagine that the code should instead use 2i and 2i + 1 instead of i and i + 1 to index into the population, but I don't actually know Lisp and maybe I'm misunderstanding how loops/increments work.