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Comment by arviN romswinckeL (R-ViN) on By default, capital will matter more than ever after AGI · 2025-01-09T20:49:07.536Z · LW · GW

"I believe that as AI takes over more labor markets and the role of capital increases, we need not necessarily fall into apathy or inaction as passive spectators. After all, there are ways in which people can actually reorient themselves toward more spiritual, philosophical and ecological values. Moreover, I dare say that AI will never be 'better' than the earth itself - for the earth and its ecosystems form an organic whole that no digital system can fully emulate."
 

1. An alternative motivation: self-deprecation and Eastern philosophy
 

The article describes how people lose their motivations once they can no longer compete with AI. However, I see a different, potentially positive outcome. There may be a large-scale shift toward inner development, meditation and spiritual directions such as Taoism.
 

  • Why Taoism? This worldview emphasizes finding balance with nature and reducing materialistic ambitions. If AI takes over the “economic competition,” this may actually create space for embracing simplicity, self-reflection and attention to well-being beyond the rat race.
     
  • Historical parallels: Before, groups of people have turned away from the mainstream system and formed alternative communities during periods of prosperity or, conversely, scarcity. In the 1960s, young people partly turned away from consumption and authority; in other cultures, too, we see repeated attempts to find new meaning when the status quo feels opinionless.
     

2. AI lags behind Earth's complexity
 

A major part of my criticism is that the article posits AI as an all-powerful force, but AI will never match the richness of the earth itself.
 

  • Inimitable diversity: The planet includes a network of biodiversity, climate patterns, geological processes and living ecosystems. These interactions are so dynamic and organic that no algorithm can fully “grasp” them.
     
  • Deeper, non-material meaning: There is more to life than providing products and services. Earth and humanity have cultural, emotional and spiritual dimensions that cannot be captured in mere mathematical models. Earth is a living entity, AI remains-however advanced-an artificial construct.
     

3. Another view of static relationships
 

The article predicts a static society with a permanent upper class. I believe that precisely because AI would become so dominant economically, people would seize the opportunity to escape the system.
 

  • New forms of society: If labor is largely automated, people can experiment with collectives in which sharing, bartering and a minimalist style of consumption are more central.
     
  • Human creativity and well-being: Once people are no longer forced into productive labor, other motivations emerge: art, poetry, community building, ecological restoration, spiritual practices, and so on. Even if AI is superior in, say, art creation, human creativity has an intrinsic value that is not necessarily about being “better” - it is human and personal.
     

4. Conclusion: human potential beyond the economic yardstick
 

Where the original article mainly describes a frozen hierarchy and inescapable power of capital, I see a parallel possibility: humanity can actually wake up from the idea that we exist only to be productive and competitive.
 

  • Meaningfulness over output: Instead of despairing at the thought that “AI can do everything better,” we can choose to put new, human-centered values first.
     
  • The planet as the ultimate teacher: Ultimately, nothing beats the complexity and grandeur of life itself. AI can play a role in optimizing processes, but it will never surpass the “totality” of the earth. With that, humans will always have a foundation in the natural world on which to build further - perhaps with less focus on possessions and careers, and more on meaning and harmony.
     

Thus, with this critique I hope to show that there are more future scenarios than a static society in which no one takes the initiative anymore. On the contrary: precisely in the shadow of a ubiquitous AI, a new, more spiritual attitude to life can emerge, freeing man from the urge to consume or compete more and more."