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Non-programmers intro to AI for programmers 2022-04-05T18:12:08.337Z
DIY Transcranial Direct Current Stimulation. Who wants to go first? 2012-03-14T16:58:30.024Z
RAND Health Insurance Experiment critiques 2012-02-18T17:52:59.330Z

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Comment by Dustin on How much I'm paying for AI productivity software (and the future of AI use) · 2024-10-15T17:32:21.690Z · LW · GW

Yeah, I haven't got it automated yet. Someday I'll have the time.

Another place I did this was with the mountain of onboarding docs I got.  Now I can just ask Claude stuff like "how early do I have to request time off and who do I contact?" or "What's my dental insurance deductible?"

Comment by Dustin on How much I'm paying for AI productivity software (and the future of AI use) · 2024-10-14T22:59:59.541Z · LW · GW

I just started a new job and I've been exporting Confluence pages to PDF and putting them in a Claude project so I can just ask Claude stuff.

Comment by Dustin on Planning a Loft Bed · 2022-09-26T16:04:47.519Z · LW · GW

SketchUp makes it where creating these sort of drawings is pretty easy!  It's a great tool for ideation.

Comment by Dustin on Planning a Loft Bed · 2022-09-26T16:03:39.880Z · LW · GW

I live/work in a fairly rural area where there are 7 towns with the biggest having a population of ~10k and the smallest ~2k and they all have varying requirements.  I've had conversations with the single code enforcement officer or director in each of them and we all agree how aggravating it is that the requirements vary from town to town.  Three of these towns butt right up next to each other so the code requirements can vary from one side of the street to the next!

Contrary to what I would expect, the biggest town, and the county seat, has by far the fewest regulations on homes of them all.

Anyway, of the two which enforce anything about bedroom dimensions it's 9' for smallest allowable dimension.  I think only one of them requires closets, but I can't recall for sure.

Your parenthetical requirement reminded me of two things:

  1. I think more people should be thinking about resale when building/remodeling their home.  You never know what the future holds!  
  2. Since we rent out houses as well, I always aim for HUD compliance. HUD requires closets in bedrooms.  While HUD doesn't require 10x10, I know the three people at HUD who handle the surrounding 3 counties worth of HUD voucher recipients and they all strongly recommend it and steer clients towards such properties. (though currently they're hurting for properties, so they're more likely to not turn their nose up at <10' dimensions)
Comment by Dustin on Planning a Loft Bed · 2022-09-26T02:12:30.771Z · LW · GW

Yeah, I flip houses fairly often and it's something I have to be aware of when remodeling stuff.

I'm sure it's different in different areas.

Comment by Dustin on Planning a Loft Bed · 2022-09-26T01:43:10.160Z · LW · GW

Interestingly, and ridiculously, this bedroom would not pass city code where I live for two reasons:

 

  1. 7ft dimension
  2. No built-in closet.
Comment by Dustin on Trigger-Action Planning · 2022-07-03T18:27:42.255Z · LW · GW

I'm not exactly claiming that it is or is not useful in improving outcomes, I'm just wondering if any "hard, sterilized" data exists. 

Anyway...

Your comment does make me wonder some things. Take the following more as me exploring my state of mind on a lazy Sunday afternoon and less as a retort or rebuttal.

I'm not sure that we actually disagree...it's hard to quantify the amount of skepticism we're both talking about.  You can't say "you should be skeptical level 3" and I can't say "no you should be skeptical level 4.3".  For all either of us knows from the conversation so far is that I'm less skeptical than you!

Be careful not to cargo-cult skepticism

Yes, I think this is a dangerous failure mode...but I think it's likely that the flipside is a more common failure out there in the real world.

dealing with a set of hundreds of people ... the most reasonable hypothesis is that it was useful.

Maybe? I'd have to think about that more. However, being the most reasonable doesn't mean there are no other reasonable hypotheses. We should work hard to increase the "reasonableness delta" so that we can increase our confidence.

There's millions of otherwise reasonable and successful people (often people I respect) telling me that they talk to ghosts or that loading up on Vitamin Omega Delta Seventeen Power Plus is the key to perfect health.

Combine that with the fact that this intervention seems pretty susceptible to not being able to distinguish between "feels useful" and "is useful" and this is the largest item raising my skepticism level. Whether this is true could be an interesting line of inquiry.

We just have to use other things like "does not conflict with how I think the world works" and "these people are generally (in)correct about subjects in this area" and "how likely is it that they tricked themselves" to weight the evidence of "these people say this is useful" to adjust our skepticism level towards the appropriate amount.

Millions of people tell me lots of things like "statins work" and "drunk driving increases risk of bad things". I'm less skeptical of those things because of the same sort of things mentioned in the previous paragraph.

To me, by far the strongest point in reducing the skepticism level is the studies backing up TAP. In fact, it seems like this point is so strong that I'm a little confused by the proportion of your comment directed towards "believing people" vs "TAP studies".  

I'm not interested enough in the subject to dive into the studies, but if I was I'd really be looking into whatever delta existed between CFAR's practices and the literature. (Besides trying to generate the hard, sterilized data, of course)

All that being said, I'm still not sure if I'm more or less skeptical than you on the subject.

Comment by Dustin on Trigger-Action Planning · 2022-07-03T15:45:37.344Z · LW · GW

I guess I should've also stressed the difference between alumni thinking it's proven useful (which is easy to determine) and it actually being useful in accomplishing stuff (which is the more interesting and harder to determine part).

None of the things you mention seem like fool-proof methods of determining the second case.

Comment by Dustin on Trigger-Action Planning · 2022-07-03T02:32:18.358Z · LW · GW

has proven useful to the majority of our alumni

 

Curious as to how this was established. I can see lots of ways for confirmation bias to creep into this.

Comment by Dustin on LessWrong Has Agree/Disagree Voting On All New Comment Threads · 2022-06-24T02:58:50.600Z · LW · GW

What about something like text buttons?  

When I'm designing a UI, I try to use text if there is not a good iconographic way of representing a concept.

Something like:

AGREE (-12) DISAGREE

I'm not sure how that would look with the current karma widget. Would require some experimentation.

Comment by Dustin on Air Conditioner Test Results & Discussion · 2022-06-22T23:57:07.425Z · LW · GW

First of all, I agree with the gist of your comment.

That is uncomfortably hot.

I...do not agree.  I keep my room temperature 72-74.

keep my room temperature around 68-70 F ish. The internet tells me that this is actually the definition of a "comfortable room temperature"

Going from first four google results for "what is comfortable room temperature":

WHO according to wikipedia: 64-75

www.cielowigle.com: 68-72

www.vivint.com: 68-76

www.provicincialheating.ca: 68-76

 

Seems like both of our preferred temperatures are consistent with "normal human being".

Comment by Dustin on The horror of what must, yet cannot, be true · 2022-06-03T16:45:54.952Z · LW · GW

Your comment describes me.

I'm not confident that this is an inherent thing about me rather than luck.

I wonder if it's just that I've lucked out and mostly avoided the bad type of situations wherein my more analytical side is seemingly suppressed to the degree Kaj describes in his post. I've had a pretty good life so far.

That's not to say I haven't had bad things happen to me. (possibly uncomfortable TMI about bad things happening in following spoiler-ed text) 

Probably the worst thing that has happened to me is that we had a child die during childbirth.  That was really bad and it causes me some amount of sadness when I think about it even 15 years later. It just never was a thing that caused anything like what is described in this post. It was sadness that lasted longer and was more intense than previous things that made me sad, but it wasn't a fundamentally different sort of sadness.

I think it's possible that I've just been lucky in that I've not had the life events whose exact characteristics mesh with the exact characteristics of my mind to lead to the sort of feeling described in this post or really most (all?) of the types of things I read about when people talk about trauma of various sorts. 

On the other hand, there are things about me that make me think maybe I have innate characteristics which lead me to not feel the way the post describes.  I'm a happy person. Things don't keep me down. I think positively about myself and others. I'm analytical. I'm pragmatic. I'm a bunch of things that fit into a cluster that would probably include "doesn't hold incoherent emotional beliefs so tightly as to need it's own word".

Comment by Dustin on The glorious energy boost I've gotten by abstaining from coffee · 2022-05-08T01:13:37.811Z · LW · GW

Thanks!  I was to the cardiologist this week going back beginning of June for echo, treadmill, etc.

Comment by Dustin on The glorious energy boost I've gotten by abstaining from coffee · 2022-05-07T21:24:19.519Z · LW · GW

In January I went to the ER because I was having a lot of heart palpitations...still haven't found anything conclusive to determine the cause.  However, I had a visit with my primary care doctor and she told me to cut back on or preferably eliminate the caffeine I was drinking via hot tea.

I went from ~6 cups per day to <1 cup per day cold turkey.

It was a rough week, but now I have no desire for it and have a good amount more energy throughout my day.

(Palpitations have more or less disappeared, but I'm not sure if that's because of caffeine, the 11 pounds I've lost, and/or something else)

Comment by Dustin on [deleted post] 2022-05-05T18:45:43.316Z
Comment by Dustin on Starting too many projects, finishing none · 2022-05-05T18:39:09.915Z · LW · GW

A potential way to think about this:

I learn a lot from most projects, and I think this is a huge benefit from at least starting a project.  I then have whatever I learned to use in the projects I do end up taking to completion.

Also remember that most projects are likely to be failures in some way (at least I think this is the case, I don't have the data lined up to back this up).  Once you've squeezed much of the learning potential out of them, then it's likely you're not losing much, if anything by dropping the project.

Comment by Dustin on Salvage Epistemology · 2022-05-05T16:58:46.670Z · LW · GW

Less so, but it just leads to the question of "why do you think it's suspicious?".  If at all possible I'd prefer just engaging with whether the root claim is true or false.

Comment by Dustin on Salvage Epistemology · 2022-05-01T21:57:10.412Z · LW · GW

I think I see a way towards mutual intelligibility on this, but unfortunately I don't think I have the bandwidth to get to that point. I will just point out this:

But as I understood it, we were discussing existence, not possibility per se.

Hmm, I was more interested in the possibility.

Comment by Dustin on Salvage Epistemology · 2022-05-01T17:30:08.140Z · LW · GW

I find "AR" more difficult to actually say out loud than "EA". 

Comment by Dustin on Salvage Epistemology · 2022-05-01T17:28:17.958Z · LW · GW

Er… I think there’s been some confusion.

I was referring to this part of your text:

(Awfully convenient, isn’t it? This trait that already gave us cause to feel superior to others, happens also to make us the only people who can learn the terrible secret thing without going mad! Yeah, right…)

It seemed to me like your parentheticals were you stepping out of the hypothetical and making commentary about the standpoint in your hypotheticals.  I apologize if I interpreted that wrong. 

My point is that before we can even get to the stage where we’re talking about which of your cases apply, we need to figure out what sort of scenario (from among my four cases, or perhaps others I didn’t list?) we’re dealing with.

Yeah, I think I understood that is what you're saying, I'm saying I don't think your point is accurate. I do not think you have to figure out which of your scenarios we're dealing with.  The scenario type is orthogonal to the question I'm asking.

I'm asking if you think it's possible for these sort of ideas to exist in the real world:

“these ideas are harmful to hear for people who aren’t me/us (because we’re enlightened/rational/hyper-analytic/educated/etc. and they’re not)”

I'm confused about how what you've said has a bearing on the answerability of my root question.

Do you think that such things exist?

I...don't know.

My prior is that they can exist. It's doesn't break any laws of physics. I don't think it breaks any laws of logic. I think there are things that some people are better able to understand than others. It's not insane to think that some people are less prone to manipulation than others. Just because believing something makes someone feel superior does not logically mean that the thing they believe is wrong.

As far as if they do exist:  There are things that have happened on LW like Roko's basilisk that raise my prior that there are things that some people can hold in their heads safely and others can't. Of course, that could be down to quirks of individual minds instead of general features of some group.  I'd be interested in someone exploring that idea further.  When do we go from saying "that's just a quirk" to "that's a general feature"?  I dunno.

Comment by Dustin on Salvage Epistemology · 2022-05-01T02:36:56.771Z · LW · GW

Hard to answer that question given how much work the clause ‘for some definition of “safely”’ is doing in that sentence.

 

I think the amount of work that clause does is part of what makes the question worth answering...or at least makes the question worth asking.

Awfully convenient, isn’t it? This trait that already gave us cause to feel superior to others, happens also to make us the only people who can learn the terrible secret thing without going mad! Yeah, right…

I'm not a fan of inserting this type of phrasing into an argument.  I think it'd be better to either argue that the claim is true or not true. To me, this type of claim feels like an applause light.  Of course, it's also possibly literally accurate...maybe most claims of the type we're talking about are erroneous and clung to because of the makes-us-feel-superior issue, but I don't think that literally accurate aspect of the argument makes the argument more useful or less of an applause light.

In other words, I don't have access to an argument that says both of these cannot exist:

  1. Cases that just make Group A feel superior because Group A erroneously thinks they are the only ones who can know it safely.
  2. Cases that make Group A feel superior because Group A accurately thinks they are the only ones who can know it safely.

In either case Group A comes across badly, but in case 2, Group A is right.  

If we cannot gather any more information or make any more arguments, it seems likely that case #1 is going to usually be the reality we're looking at.  However, we can gather more information and make more arguments.  Since that is so, I don't think it's useful to assume bad motives or errors on the part of Group A.

So which of these examples is the closest to the sort of thing the OP talks about, in your view?

I don't really know.  The reason for my root question was to suss out whether you had more information and arguments or were just going by the heuristics that make you default to my case #1.  Maybe you have a good argument that case #2 cannot exist.  (I've never heard of a good argument for that.)

 

eta: I'm not completely satisfied with this comment at this time as I don't think it completely gets across the point I'm trying to make. That being said, I assign < 50% chance that I'll finish rewriting it in some manner so I'm going to leave it as is and hope I'm being overly negative in my assessment of it or at least that someone will be able to extract some meaning from it.

Comment by Dustin on Salvage Epistemology · 2022-04-30T19:15:44.202Z · LW · GW

Is part of your claim that such ideas do not exist?  By "such ideas" I mean ideas that only some people can hear or learn about for some definition of "safely".

Comment by Dustin on Salvage Epistemology · 2022-04-30T02:44:52.609Z · LW · GW

It's been my experience that many more people think they're immune to woo than actually are. I'm not sure the risk is worth the reward.

Comment by Dustin on Why pessimism sounds smart · 2022-04-25T23:50:01.464Z · LW · GW

It's not as pithy, but it seems likely that it's better said that some optimists make money, no?

Of course, this doesn't have any direct bearing on this interesting post.

Comment by Dustin on What Is a Major Chord? · 2022-04-24T17:15:02.075Z · LW · GW

Thanks, I found this very helpful!  My daughter is taking guitar lessons and I think now I can maybe talk a bit more intelligently with her about it.

The standard notes used in Western music differ in pitch by a factor of the 12th root of 2 (~1.06x).

I was going to ask "why?" here and in some other places. But I'm guessing you answer the "why" later when you say:

This is all very silly, but it's what we're stuck with for historical reasons.

Comment by Dustin on A very quick analogy regarding "opinions" · 2022-04-20T16:16:11.643Z · LW · GW

What is an example of having an opinion that is an image of an image?

Comment by Dustin on GPT-3 and concept extrapolation · 2022-04-20T16:08:28.780Z · LW · GW

The rain in Spain stays mainly in the plain. 

This is a famous line from the play Pygmalion by George Bernard Shaw. In the play, a character named Henry Higgins is teaching a lower-class woman named Eliza Doolittle how to speak proper English. He tells her that the rain in Spain stays mainly in the plain in order to help her remember the correct pronunciation of the word "plain."

Comment by Dustin on Feature proposal: Close comment as resolved · 2022-04-15T19:18:26.189Z · LW · GW

Your suggestion is way easier to implement, and I like it, but just dreaming here...

It'd be neat to have functionality like Google Docs with commenting and edit suggestions within the text and margins specifically for editor-type of stuff. The post author could set some sort of permissions on who could do edit suggestions and who could view them.

This has the benefit of keeping comments for commenting on the content and putting editing in to a common editing paradigm.

Comment by Dustin on Counter-theses on Sleep · 2022-04-14T18:05:37.462Z · LW · GW

I agree with you.

I've found that I've lessened this experience of reading something I've wrote and being horrified at its tone by going back and reading my comments at various sites.  At least once a year I find myself going to my profile page at LW or some other site and just spending a couple of hours reading what I've wrote in the past.  I think this has helped me be more aware of what my tone is conveying.

Comment by Dustin on Counter-theses on Sleep · 2022-04-14T17:54:25.898Z · LW · GW

For what it's worth, in my experience there is a wide delta in accuracy between bad fitbit-style sleep trackerse and good fiftbit-style trackers.  

I do not know if this study used good or bad devices.

Comment by Dustin on Explaining the Twitter Postrat Scene · 2022-04-06T19:05:48.022Z · LW · GW

I'm somewhat confused on what you actually feel here

 

If I was to immerse myself in postrat, I would not like it because I prefer to be doing things that I enjoy and think are good and useful.  If I was forced to be immersed in postrat I'd be bored, bemused, indifferent.  I have a hard time thinking of a way that the word "disgust" would be used to describe my reaction.

I'm allergic to being bored.

Comment by Dustin on Explaining the Twitter Postrat Scene · 2022-04-06T18:09:17.319Z · LW · GW

Hmm.  So, what I was attempting to say was not that Jacob's post would convince you to like the postrat scene.

More that it would help you to understand the postrat scene.  

Moreover, I can imagine two categories of people who have negative opinions about the scene:  

  1. People who think it's stupid because it's shallow (not sure shallow is the right word here).
  2. People who think it's stupid because it appears shallow but know that the decoder ring for stuff like the QAnon post exists.

I'd say that when I said:

On the other hand, it feels like it it is helpful explaining to people who already have some sort of idea that the scene exists and posts and already have some sort of at least slightly negative opinion about it.

I was saying that it feels like the post would be most effective at moving people from category 1 to category 2.

 

FWIW, I'm mostly of the same opinion as you WRT to stuff like the QAnon tweet though I would express my emotional reaction more as indifference/you-do-you than disgust.

What I find interesting is that when I was in my teens through my twenties, I would have reveled in this ingroup type of stuff.  I did revel in it!  Now that I'm in my mid 40s I have an almost allergic reaction to it. 

Comment by Dustin on Explaining the Twitter Postrat Scene · 2022-04-06T17:23:29.896Z · LW · GW

I made the parent comment while sick and tired. This morning I'm just sick and while in the shower I started worrying that maybe the comment I made while being sick and tired didn't make any sense or would be taken as an attack.

This morning I'm relieved to see it wasn't downvoted into oblivion.

Comment by Dustin on Explaining the Twitter Postrat Scene · 2022-04-05T23:21:39.722Z · LW · GW

I liked this in an anthropological sort of way.

I do feel like it sort of hovered around a level of "explaining the twitter postrat scene" that would not be super helpful for people coming from two almost opposing standpoints:

  1. People who want to get into the scene. Who do I follow, what buttons do I click...what's the actions I should take?
  2. People who don't understand why anyone would care about the scene.

Reading between the lines a little bit, I think this is probably intentional.

On the other hand, it feels like it it is helpful explaining to people who already have some sort of idea that the scene exists and posts and already have some sort of at least slightly negative opinion about it.

Comment by Dustin on Terminal Preferences · 2022-04-05T02:36:12.994Z · LW · GW

Not Jeff, but I usually have:

  • at least a couple of terminals with SSH sessions.
  • one or two running language tools (like a blackd server for python)
  • Since everything using web tech requires building nowadays a terminal building whatever project
  • A terminal open in my current project directory to run project-specific commands.

Then I usually have a terminal or two open in my Jetbrains IDE....running the software I'm working on.

Comment by Dustin on Terminal Preferences · 2022-04-05T02:31:38.897Z · LW · GW

For anyone on Windows, the newish Windows Terminal is really nice.  Give it a try.

Windows has become a really nice development platform over the past several years.  

Comment by Dustin on The Jordan Peterson vs Sam Harris Debate · 2022-04-04T20:29:29.340Z · LW · GW

There's a difference between

the complete material reductionist memeplex

and

the material reductionist memeplex is complete.

Having all of a thing that is incomplete is to completely have that thing.

Comment by Dustin on Working Out in VR Really Works · 2022-04-03T19:41:21.065Z · LW · GW

Just remember that (I think, not an expert!) exercise is much less important than diet when it comes to losing weight.  An hour run that burns 300 calories is swamped by having a double cheeseburger instead of a salad.

Comment by Dustin on Nuclear Preparedness Guide · 2022-04-02T00:28:56.496Z · LW · GW

Are the black or the red supposed to be the minuteman silos on that map?

Comment by Dustin on Abandoned prototype video game teaching elementary circuit theory · 2022-03-31T02:25:24.936Z · LW · GW

Oh man, that is it!  I didn't quite remember that it was about logic more than electronics in general.  Brings back some cool memories...

Thanks for helping me remember, gwern.

Comment by Dustin on Abandoned prototype video game teaching elementary circuit theory · 2022-03-30T21:52:42.242Z · LW · GW

This makes me think about a game I played on a Tandy CoCo 30+ years ago that was all about learning electronics.  I wish I could remember the name of it, I really enjoyed it at the time.

Comment by Dustin on Humans pretending to be robots pretending to be human · 2022-03-29T16:36:22.689Z · LW · GW

If they're randomly picking from a list of possible political positions, I'd agree.  However, I suspect that is not the realistic alternative to parroting their parents political positions.  

Maybe ideally it'd be rational reflection to the best of their ability on values and whatnot.  However, if we had a switch to turn off parroting-parents-political-positions we'd be in a weird space...children wouldn't even know about most political positions to even choose from.

Comment by Dustin on [deleted post] 2022-03-15T00:22:39.626Z

without answering the original questions

 

It seems unreasonable to me to expect all comments on a post to directly answer the explicit questions raised in the post. 

Sometimes people highlight unexamined premises in your question that resolve your own confusion!  I think such comments are very helpful!

I do not know if AllAmericanBreakfast is correct, but it does not seem implausible to me that wars in the past were confusing to intelligent people living at the time.

(I do agree that there is something about the tone of AllAmericanBreakfast's comment that can illicit a feeling of irritation.  Maybe the last sentence has a bit of condescension to it?)

Comment by Dustin on How to Lumenate (UK Edition) · 2022-03-14T17:29:23.684Z · LW · GW

How do you use these without squinting all the time?

I've tried a couple of 7k lumen corn bulbs in my ceiling-mounted light fixture in my office, but I find myself squinting all the time.

Maybe it's something to do with it being point sources?

Comment by Dustin on New GPT3 Impressive Capabilities - InstructGPT3 [1/2] · 2022-03-14T01:24:24.711Z · LW · GW

I've found that the more I use Github CoPilot the more time I give to thinking how to write comments and function names to prompt good code recommendations.

Comment by Dustin on [deleted post] 2022-03-12T16:25:57.316Z

There's a lot of results in this Google search for "ai prediction 2022" limited to between 3-20 years ago.  Try manipulating that search to narrow down what you're looking for.

One problem I see with a lot of the results is that the predictions are too vague to be able to grade...à la "2022 will see more usage of AI technologies". 

Gee, thanks a lot prognosticator.  So useful.

(Just in case you didn't think to use a custom dates search filter on Google)

Comment by Dustin on Preserving and continuing alignment research through a severe global catastrophe · 2022-03-07T16:45:49.586Z · LW · GW

Footnote #5 seems as if it cuts off too soon.

Comment by Dustin on Observations about writing and commenting on the internet · 2022-02-20T23:23:42.119Z · LW · GW

I don't really have any specific advice on how to write in this way. I don't think I consistently write in this way either, but not through lack of trying.

I'm talking about getting people to respond to the content of your post rather than responding to more nebulous social or emotional stuff that they take away from the phrasing, tone and subject matter of what you write...specifically if the social/emotional context is not intentional.

Some quick thoughts:

  1. Is the style of your text confrontational?  I think some people are able to get away with being confrontational and not turn people off from the content, but I think that's far from the norm.
  2. If you can frame things more like you're trying to discover something with your reader rather than "here's the thing that I figured out and you've been so wrong" it can make people less likely to feel like they're losing status by agreeing with you.
  3. In general try to not be a jerk!  Make it easier for others to respond to you in ways that you're not going to irrationally react negatively to.  
Comment by Dustin on Observations about writing and commenting on the internet · 2022-02-15T21:03:52.231Z · LW · GW

Often when I see someone puzzled about why their factually and logically sound post or comment is responded to so negatively it's because their tone does not encourage people to take their thoughts seriously.  Unfortunately, the tone of your post matters and the tone you need varies based upon your target audience.

 

(Not saying this applies to you, dynomight!)

Comment by Dustin on Why Parents Should Let Their Children Play More Video Games · 2022-02-15T20:39:55.226Z · LW · GW
  1. Socialization in games does exist, but is way off normal. You may be interacting with a 40 year old dude thinking he's a 12 year old and vice versa. That it is possible shows how unreal the social part of gaming is.

 

I made online gaming friends 15 years ago and I'm still good friends with some of them today.

Not that this makes you wrong, and the social part of gaming is different today, but it's at least possible to have good social interactions via online gaming.

I think maybe it was easier to make long-lasting friends in the past?  In the past an online multiplayer game would have servers hosted by users rather than the company who made the game.  A community could spring up around a single server with forums and IRC channels and you'd play with the same people every day.