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Comment by John5 on Beautiful Probability · 2008-01-14T10:24:13.000Z · LW · GW

Hi, Im from Melbourne. All I can say is beware of any organisation or group of people who claim to be committed to over coming bias. Isnt that what all the "true believers" in his-story imagined that they were doing?

Heisenberg, and others told us that the very act of observing anything includes all sorts of unconscious biases which both effect the state of what is being observed, and via feedback, the state of the presumed observer, and of course, the results of any and every research project, no matter what it is. A person stuffed with hambugers obviously perceives everything differently than a Yogi who eats a purifying vegetarian diet, does pranayama (breathing) exercises, and hatha yoga too. The states of their nervous systems would be completely different, and hence their perceptions too. ALL perceptions are electronic fabrications and projections of the brain nervous system complex. We never see the world--only our brain created electronic projections---always, all of the time.

ALL thinking involves a bias---no exceptions. Why are you always thinking any way?

All of that is inevitable when a limited point of view to any act of observation. What is behind your head? What does the room look like from the point of view of your toe nail or from the other end of the room? What does the room look like from every possible point of view within the room? And from every possible point of view in space and time? Where is the room? Where, and who, and what,are you?

How can you explain the authentic world view communicated in the dot paintings of the best Australian so called "aboriginal" artists? It is radically different to our western way of seeing seeing, and yet completely coherent to an "aboriginal", and an integral part/expression of their culture altogether.

Perhaps it is far more real and ALIVE than our impoverished and power seeking objectification power/knowledge games which effectively reduce everything to dead matter---even if Bayesian methods are used.

The search for scientific "knowledge" is really hunter-gatherer behaviour which originates from the very primitive pre-civilized sections of the brain---the reptilian brain.

A quote from Carlos Casteneda.

" In European membership the "world" is built largely from what the eyes report to the mind. In sorcery the total body is used as a receptor. As Europeans we see a "world" out "there" and talk to ourselves about it. We are "here" and the "world" is "there". Our eyes feed our "reason" and we have no direct knowledge of things. According to sorcery this burden on the eyes is unnecessary. We know with the total body."

The only way bias could be truly over come would be to see the world from the Acausal perspective of God's eyes---the room and the universe in its totality before it is cut up into "objectified", and thus controlled. The process of objectifying any and everything is about gaining power and control----the Western gaze! This is what Western "culture" is all about. Power and control.