Comment by linkhyrule5 on Realism about rationality · 2018-09-22T18:46:17.526Z · score: 6 (3 votes) · LW · GW

I was kind of iffy about this post until the last point, which immediately stood out to me as something I vehemently disagree with. Whether or not humans naturally have values or are consistent is irrelevant -- that which is not required will happen only at random and thus tend not to happen at all, and so if you aren't very very careful to actually make sure you're working in a particular coherent direction, you're probably not working nearly as efficiently as you could be and may in fact be running in circles without noticing.

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Learning strategies and the Pokemon league parable · 2018-08-17T19:37:05.015Z · score: 9 (5 votes) · LW · GW

As someone who does a whole lot of pull-based learning, I'm going to chime in and say that using it as your main method of learning is probably not the best idea. tl;dr: Learning on the job is powerful, but it overfits by nature; while there's probably more than a little confirmation bias from us ivory tower types, it's almost certainly drowned out by "everything comes back to math and logic" and "the truth is all of a piece".

There is a fairly natural divide, IMO, between "engineering fields" and "theoretical fields" - fields that are directly aimed at solving actual problems, and fields that are more about exploring what is possible and figuring out what is true in general. Pull-based learning is tempting in engineering fields for all the reasons you list - most of being able to solve a real world problem is precisely knowing about all the little fiddly bits of reality, and there is not yet a good way of predicting which fiddly bits you need to know while sitting in your armchair (metaphorically speaking.) In that regard you can get pretty damn far learning only what you "need to know", to the point of finishing a number of fairly large projects...

... but your knowledge is fundamentally grounded in air, and it's not always obvious how your experience generalizes. To generalize knowledge you need to build an abstract model, and the skill of building abstract models is very, very theoretical (almost by definition!). In particular, using pull-based learning as a primary tool reminds me of trying to learn physics without first learning math as a fundamental. Certainly, you can make use of what other people have done, and when they start pulling out integrals and Lagrangians and group symmetries you can go look that up and learn it then - but that won't let you make your own generalizations, or (as Darmani says) contribute to pushing the boundaries on your own.

Personally, I find pull-based learning most useful as the first/last step in a loop. You do some project, and midway through you find there's a whole bunch of stuff you wish you knew better and learn just enough to get it done. But then you go off and take a course in the dangling ends you discovered, and maybe explore a few branches off that tree too, before you come back to doing some new project challenging enough to force you to learn on the job again - and also enough to make you use your new skills, judge which of them are most important, and generally see them in a new light/in practice. To use the Pokemon metaphor, it's like, after losing against the Elite Four, you boot up someone else's save file right before the Elite Four in a totally different version, and try to pick up general "anti-Elite Four" tricks in general rather than "oh, this particular Elite Four has a Ghost specialist, Ice specialist, Fire specialist, and Steel/Psychic specialist, in that order", which doesn't generalize to other games.

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Hubris, Pride, and Arrogance · 2017-11-21T23:44:35.415Z · score: 12 (4 votes) · LW · GW

All of your advice seems designed for a longer post published outside LW. None of them seem appropriate for a ~1k word short published in the same place as and three days after both the last chapter of Inadequate Equilibria and "Hero Licensing," both of which I mention in the text.

With the partial exception of the first, but I have been using "linkhyrule5" as an alias and "link" as a nickname for the better part of two decades now, and have not been led to believe that it was particularly hard to decypher. Illusion of transparency, yes, but also evidence to the contrary.

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Hubris, Pride, and Arrogance · 2017-11-20T20:35:30.181Z · score: 4 (2 votes) · LW · GW

A final note, a postscript that doesn't belong in the main article:

The correct word for the final concept is not "arrogance," because arrogance has, as I note in the first sentence, long since been conflated with the other two, with "hubris" and "pride". It is, nonetheless, what I believe many people mean, when they say "arrogance", and so it is the word I use here. And because it is something to be discarded, its linguistic affinity to "hubris" and "pride" mean those related concepts are thrown out with the bathwater.

A better word for the last concept, for "the state of being in the habit of mockery", would be useful - though not for this particular point.

Hubris, Pride, and Arrogance

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Comment by linkhyrule5 on Open Thread, Aug. 22 - 28, 2016 · 2016-08-28T20:17:11.825Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · LW · GW

There we go. No wonder I couldn't find it, it wasn't on LessWrong, and also a lot older than three years. Thanks!

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Open Thread, Aug. 22 - 28, 2016 · 2016-08-28T18:06:02.411Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · LW · GW

So there's a post that was written, geez, about three years back, about the estimated risk of a catastrophe from an anthropic perspective. I forget most of the logic (or I'd've found it myself), but one of the conclusions was that from the perspective of an observer who requires a "miracle" to exist, miracles seem to occur at approximately evenly spaced intervals. Does anyone remember which post I'm talking about?

Comment by linkhyrule5 on [FINAL CHAPTER] Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, March 2015, chapter 122 · 2015-03-23T07:20:54.560Z · score: 0 (0 votes) · LW · GW

As dxu notes, Hermione is likely to use it more than he is. And if Harry does go out, he'll do it with Hermione, and can borrow her Cloak.

It's not "Harry will never use the Cloak again", it's "it's Hermione's now because she'll get the most use out of it."

Comment by linkhyrule5 on [FINAL CHAPTER] Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, March 2015, chapter 122 · 2015-03-22T08:10:08.846Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · LW · GW

On the contrary.

The best way to keep yourself safe, now that Hogwarts no longer has literally Lord Voldemort in it, is to sit in the tallest tower of Hogwarts and never leave. Anyone that manages to get past the wards is not going to be stopped by the Cloak, Hallow or not.

Comment by linkhyrule5 on [FINAL CHAPTER] Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, March 2015, chapter 122 · 2015-03-17T14:11:46.440Z · score: 4 (6 votes) · LW · GW

Nah. There are better ways to keep yourself safe than invisibility, whereas Hermione will be running around adventuring. Sure, it's very hard to kill her, but if she needs to, say, rescue a hostage or something, that won't necessarily be relevant.

Comment by linkhyrule5 on [FINAL CHAPTER] Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, March 2015, chapter 122 · 2015-03-15T06:01:04.642Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · LW · GW

Yes - but achieve what?

He just... wants immortality. And then... that's it. No real idea of what he wants to do with it.

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, March 2015, chapter 119 · 2015-03-12T03:16:17.411Z · score: 2 (2 votes) · LW · GW

... You know, if I had had to predict which character would end up as a magical girl, Voldemort would've been at the bottom of my list...

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, March 2015, chapter 116 · 2015-03-08T23:38:17.432Z · score: 0 (0 votes) · LW · GW

He could have spent that hour sending a Patronus to Lucius, though.

Didn't think of it, though.

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, March 2015, chapter 116 · 2015-03-05T03:16:14.076Z · score: 0 (0 votes) · LW · GW

All he really has to do is convince Lucius to be a rock for about five minutes while he would have been summoned. Heal anything with transfigurative healing + the Stone.

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, March 2015, chapter 114 + chapter 115 · 2015-03-03T19:04:40.761Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · LW · GW

Pack of cards?

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, March 2015, chapter 114 + chapter 115 · 2015-03-03T18:28:32.714Z · score: 2 (2 votes) · LW · GW

About ten chapters ago.

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 113 · 2015-03-01T00:17:39.832Z · score: 3 (3 votes) · LW · GW

But it does not serve as a solution to say, for example, "Harry should persuade Voldemort to let him out of the box" if you can't yourself figure out how.

It's a shame that nobody's going along this line of thought. It would be cool to see a full, successful AI-Box experiment out there as a fanfiction.

(I'd do it myself, but my previous attempts at such have been.... eheh. Less than successful.)

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 112 · 2015-02-26T00:18:23.910Z · score: 2 (2 votes) · LW · GW

Was it?

I really don't think the alternative was better than the canonical "Harry gets her out of there at a reasonably low cost considering all the myriad ways he has of making tons of money".

I mean, given that his opponent turned out to be Quirrell, maybe, but otherwise...

Which earlier mistakes were these?

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 112 · 2015-02-25T23:18:50.241Z · score: 2 (2 votes) · LW · GW

To be fair to Harry, neither of those are good examples - Voldemort's plan also had Hermione in Azkaban thinking she had murdered Draco Malfoy for two weeks, which would have had... unpleasant effects on her mental health, and there's a pretty sharp limit to how much you can count "going along with a hostage situation at gunpoint" as "meddling." A mistake, yes, intentional meddling, no.

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 112 · 2015-02-25T22:52:51.229Z · score: 7 (7 votes) · LW · GW

Don't think the curse actually enforces oaths, just ensures that you're telling the truth at the time you said it.

Besides, Voldemort, from his point of view, isn't harming Hermione - since, after all, he just went ridiculously out of his way to make sure she wouldn't care.

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 111 · 2015-02-25T21:50:33.066Z · score: 0 (0 votes) · LW · GW

I would guess that the True Patronus would fail in that case, because it is no longer true that "the only thing wrong with this body is that it's dead."

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 112 · 2015-02-25T21:21:11.160Z · score: 6 (6 votes) · LW · GW

Something about that line reminded me of a very, very old quote:

Beneath the moonlight glints a tiny fragment of silver, a fraction of a line...

(black robes, falling)

...blood spills out in litres, and someone screams a word.

We've got the robes and the moonlight and the context, but... Harry's naked, so that can't be Harry falling and Hermione screaming. I ... don't think Harry would scream for Voldemort at this point.

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 112 · 2015-02-25T21:16:16.276Z · score: 3 (5 votes) · LW · GW

... So. That was a thing.

Let's see here. My current best guess for Voldy's extremely redundant anti-apocalypse plan looks something like this:

1) Kill Harry Potter. 2) Thoroughly kill Harry Potter with thirty-odd Death Eaters. 3) Have Harry Potter kill himself 4) Convince Harry Potter that if all else fails and he somehow manages to, I don't know, stab himself in the Resurrection Stone and set off a chain reaction that throws his other 108 Horcruxes into the Sun, he'll kill himself anyway 5) If he doesn't kill himself, ensure that Hermione Granger is around to keep him sane.

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 111 · 2015-02-25T21:08:11.803Z · score: 2 (2 votes) · LW · GW

Extremely confused.

Worried for Harry, worried for Harry's morality, which immediately leads into "wait what exactly did they do to me*"?

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 111 · 2015-02-25T21:06:59.260Z · score: -2 (4 votes) · LW · GW

...

Seriously, EY? You split it up into two chapters just for that? -.-

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 111 · 2015-02-25T20:56:23.123Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · LW · GW

It is if the poison's effect is to make the person a complete drooling moron.

Google Bahl's Stupefaction, and then Idiot Ball.

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 111 · 2015-02-25T20:53:21.031Z · score: 0 (0 votes) · LW · GW

General prophecy shenanigans. There are now two different prophecies orbiting Harry James Potter-Evans-Verres, one of which certainly seems to imply that he's going to survive to destroy the world. Obvious, predictable solutions are likely to fail.

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 111 · 2015-02-25T20:50:13.557Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · LW · GW

You can retract your entire post in the bottom-right corner.

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 111 · 2015-02-25T20:06:06.118Z · score: 0 (0 votes) · LW · GW

Be stupid?

There's no excuse for letting Harry have his stuff back, after all.

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 111 · 2015-02-25T20:00:41.894Z · score: 0 (0 votes) · LW · GW

On a side note - Blood Fort sacrifice, hm? *amused*

"Fal-Tor-Pan" similarly, though I had to Google that one.

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 111 · 2015-02-25T19:59:30.140Z · score: 0 (0 votes) · LW · GW

Partially, blindness due to not wanting to be bored again. Friendship is magic and alicorn princesses :p.

Partially, because he's not sure that he can kill Harry.

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 111 · 2015-02-25T19:57:03.098Z · score: 3 (3 votes) · LW · GW

If your prediction is lower than 50%, what you're really saying is, "Of all the hypotheses I that have been elevated to my attention, this one is most likely; however, I am so uncertain that I am more likely to be wrong than right."

Or in other words, to paraphrase Eliezer, I'm fairly sure that random person's name isn't Klein, but I'm very sure it's not Ktlzybplq.

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 111 · 2015-02-25T19:55:04.148Z · score: 5 (5 votes) · LW · GW

I think it's mostly because of Trelawney's prophecy. The second Hermione died, Trelawney blurts out: "HE IS HERE. THE ONE WHO WILL TEAR APART THE VERY STARS IN HEAVEN. HE IS HERE. HE IS THE END OF THE WORLD."

Which, y'know. Is a tad ominous.

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 111 · 2015-02-25T19:53:58.868Z · score: 0 (0 votes) · LW · GW

... oh dear gods I wish I had not made that connection.

Um. I really really hope that's not indicative of how horrible what he did to Snape was...

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 111 · 2015-02-25T19:52:11.987Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · LW · GW

He doesn't actually know that ritual, though. Quirrell does stuff with his wand and Harry knows better than to just blindly copy whatever off his memory.

The resurrection ritual, as near as I can tell, requires only going to that obelisk, placing flesh on the slab, and saying "X, X, X so wisely hidden", where "X" is whatever you you have - blood, flesh, bone, vitreous humors of the eye, whatever.

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 111 · 2015-02-25T19:49:57.755Z · score: 4 (4 votes) · LW · GW

Pretty much. It's not mass producible, is the problem here.

It's a start, and a pretty good start at that, but it's not done.

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 111 · 2015-02-25T19:43:18.851Z · score: 0 (0 votes) · LW · GW

Nnnnot quite. Remember, for Harry, part of defeating death is mass true resurrection. And the only method of resurrection Harry knows of requires a finite amount of his own life-force. (I suppose that may not apply to Muggles, though.)

Also, he needs the body, which doesn't usually exist for anyone dead too long ago...

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 111 · 2015-02-25T19:40:08.718Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · LW · GW

Presumably, the body was repaired to true health - which also means that the brain was restored to its original state, that is, functional.

At that point, a Muggle can be revived by simply restarting her heart. A witch, apparently, requires a bit of magic.

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 111 · 2015-02-25T19:21:08.346Z · score: 5 (5 votes) · LW · GW

While I'm not at all sure this is all real (we did end the last chapter with Harry staring into the Mirror, after all), Quirrell's continued NOPE-ing over Trelawney's star prophecy remains utterly hilarious.

It's like he thinks that his own life depends on Hermione Granger being alive, somehow.

For I would never want you to be deprived of Hermione Granger's counsel and restraint, not ever while the stars yet live.

snickers

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 111 · 2015-02-25T19:19:26.644Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · LW · GW

Further speculation along this line: Even if this is a dream, what has Harry gained from this vision?

  • A reasonably non-Dark way of resurrecting Hermione. (!)
  • Insight into the Dark Lord's motives, assuming that this is all things he "might have" said.
  • A hint into how he might be killed.
Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 111 · 2015-02-25T19:14:58.182Z · score: 5 (5 votes) · LW · GW

Meta-level evidence for this: Eliezer doesn't usually post two chapters, short or not, in one day.

Not wasting his readers time speculating about a "dream" would be a good motive for that.

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 110 · 2015-02-24T23:42:02.982Z · score: 7 (7 votes) · LW · GW

Random note of confusion - Why is the mirror blank? Harry should be seeing his CEV right now, since he's unCloaked in front of the mirror.

Also, the Cloak is Harry's, yes? If Harry claims the Cloak right now, while Quirrell's wearing it, will that trigger resonance?

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 110 · 2015-02-24T23:31:55.096Z · score: 2 (2 votes) · LW · GW

Meh. The big Dath Bey Yewoonen prophecy may not apply to this one, but Harry will certainly consider this to be "death" for his purposes - and Harry does not intend to leave anyone dead.

And what magic can do, an immortal rational wizard can undo...

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 110 · 2015-02-24T20:11:12.594Z · score: 3 (3 votes) · LW · GW

... Huh.

... Is it just me, or is Harry Potter now in the same room as the Elder Wand and the Philosopher's Stone?

... Well, there's a great big Dark Lord in the way, but.

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 109 · 2015-02-24T15:54:56.624Z · score: 0 (0 votes) · LW · GW

Right, but the Mirror (in theory) has no power over anything not reflected in it, and Harry's still invisible.

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 109 · 2015-02-24T15:20:22.373Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · LW · GW

So You Want to Be a Wizard is the name of a Duane book, the first in the Young Wizardry series.

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 109 · 2015-02-23T21:57:24.860Z · score: 7 (7 votes) · LW · GW

I immediately thought of Eliezer's metaphor of the brain as "the lens that perceives its own flaws", and reflective consistency.

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 9 · 2015-02-23T21:55:26.221Z · score: 6 (6 votes) · LW · GW

... Have you had this sitting in a bookmark for four years so you could give him credit?

I'm not sure whether to be impressed or squee at the adorables. Probably both.

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 109 · 2015-02-23T21:34:14.939Z · score: 2 (2 votes) · LW · GW

It's not an FAI, it hasn't taken over and promptly saved the world yet.

Well, I suppose this could all be a very slow plan on its part, but that would be boring, so it's probably magically charged to not do that, in some better-than-English conceptual way.

And well, insofar as they're trying to save the world and no major government cares to throw large quantities of public funds at them.

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 109 · 2015-02-23T21:30:13.735Z · score: 7 (7 votes) · LW · GW

Not quite. It won't show you what you think you want, or even what you really truly want this second - it shows you what you would want, if you were were better, smarter, and more the person you wished to be. It's coherent - you should never look into the Mirror and go "on second thought, that's a terrible universe."

For example, Ron would not see himself becoming Prefect or being Head Boy, because in a decade or less he'll have outgrown such ambitions.

Comment by linkhyrule5 on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 109 · 2015-02-23T20:25:58.927Z · score: 0 (0 votes) · LW · GW

Also, under the assumption that Eliezer reads these threads - usually, the critique is anchored on Harry, but moves on to poking at Draco's little-professor-ness. Though I'm sure there are plenty of idiots who go on about Harry not being eleven, most of the intelligent detractors I've taught to quickly move on.

I'm sure that they're anchored by Harry's not-normal-ness, but at least they don't keep pushing that once it's pointed out that Harry is intended to be Voldemort.

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