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How does someone prove that their general intelligence is above average? 2024-09-16T21:01:38.529Z
What's the evidence that LLMs will scale up efficiently beyond GPT4? i.e. couldn't GPT5, etc., be very inefficient? 2023-11-24T15:22:01.624Z
When building an organization, there are lots of ways to prevent financial corruption of personnel. But what are the ways to prevent corruption via social status, political power, etc.? 2023-10-17T18:51:47.127Z
Is there a widely accepted metric for 'genuineness' in interpersonal communication? 2023-09-27T05:30:46.716Z
Credible, costly, pseudonymity 2023-04-24T13:35:12.718Z
Practical ways to actualize our beliefs into concrete bets over a longer time horizon? 2023-04-20T21:21:21.257Z
Analysis of GPT-4 competence in assessing complex legal language: Example of Bill C-11 of the Canadian Parliament. - Part 1 2023-04-02T00:01:11.133Z
Is ChatGPT (or other LLMs) more 'sentient'/'conscious/etc. then a baby without a brain? 2023-03-10T19:00:36.011Z
Google announces 'Bard' powered by LaMDA 2023-02-06T19:40:44.459Z
Peter Thiel's speech at Oxford Debating Union on technological stagnation, Nuclear weapons, COVID, Environment, Alignment, 'anti-anti anti-anti-classical liberalism', Bostrom, LW, etc. 2023-01-30T23:31:26.134Z
Bounded distrust or Bounded trust? 2022-10-15T16:41:22.085Z
Vehicle Platooning - a real world examination of the difficulties in coordination 2022-10-13T19:33:21.424Z
Self-defeating conspiracy theorists and their theories 2022-10-04T00:48:53.998Z
Do meta-memes and meta-antimemes exist? e.g. 'The map is not the territory' is also a map 2022-08-07T01:17:43.916Z
How does one recognize information and differentiate it from noise? 2022-08-03T03:57:35.432Z
Letter from leading Soviet Academicians to party and government leaders of the Soviet Union regarding signs of decline and structural problems of the economic-political system (1970) 2022-08-01T22:35:08.750Z
Some reflections on the LW community after several months of active engagement 2022-06-25T17:04:16.233Z
An argument against excessive consumption of coffee from 1674 2022-02-12T18:39:19.593Z
The Defeat of Reason? 2022-02-10T04:29:07.864Z
Everyone’s mired in the deepest confusion, some of the time? 2022-02-09T02:53:58.551Z
How could a friendly AI deal with humans trying to sabotage it? (like how present day internet trolls introduce such problems) 2021-11-27T22:07:15.960Z
What are the mutual benefits of AGI-human collaboration that would otherwise be unobtainable? 2021-11-17T03:09:40.733Z
What’s the likelihood of only sub exponential growth for AGI? 2021-11-13T22:46:25.277Z
Avoiding Negative Externalities - a theory with specific examples - Part 1 2021-11-12T04:09:32.462Z
M. Y. Zuo's Shortform 2021-11-07T01:42:46.261Z

Comments

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on Evaluating the truth of statements in a world of ambiguous language. · 2024-10-08T13:21:50.968Z · LW · GW

This seems always "fuzzily true"?

e.g. Which atom of the store are you measuring to?

The store has many quadrillions of atoms spread across a huge volume of space, relative to atom sizes, and there is no ultimate arbiter on the definitive measuring point.

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on If I have some money, whom should I donate it to in order to reduce expected P(doom) the most? · 2024-10-06T22:38:40.145Z · LW · GW

How does someone view the actual outcomes of the ‘Highlighted Grants’ on that page?

It would be a lot more reassuring if readers can check that they’ve all been fulfilled and/or exceeded expectations.

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on How does someone prove that their general intelligence is above average? · 2024-09-19T15:57:35.730Z · LW · GW

I am not asking about ‘true’ general intelligence? Or whatever that implies.

If your not sure, I am asking regarding the term commonly called ‘general intelligence’, or sometimes also known as ‘general mental ability factor’ or ‘g-factor’, in mainstream academic papers. Such as those found in pedagogy, memetics, genetics, etc…

See: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%252C5&q=“general+intelligence”&btnG=

Where many many thousands of researchers over the last few decades are referring to this.

Here is a direct quote by a pretty well known expert among intelligence researchers, writing in 2004:

“ During the past few decades, the word intelligence has been attached to an increasing number of different forms of competence and accomplishment-emo-tional intelligence, football intelligence, and so on. Researchers in the field, however, have largely abandoned the term, together with their old debates over what sorts of abilities should and should not be classified as part of intelligence. Helped by the advent of new technologies for researching the brain, they have increasingly turned their attention to a century-old concept of a single overarching mental power. They call it simply g, which is short for the general mental ability factor. The g factor is a universal and reliably measured distinction among humans in their ability to learn, reason, and solve problems. It corresponds to what most people mean when they describe some individuals as smarter than others, and it's well measured by IQ (intelligence quotient) tests, which assess high-level mental skills such as the ability to draw inferences, see similarities and differences, and process complex information of virtually any kind. Understanding g's biological basis in the brain is the new frontier in intelligence research today. The g factor was discovered by the first mental testers, who found that people who scored well on one type of mental test tended to score well on all of them. Regardless of their contents (words, numbers, pictures, shapes), how they are administered (individually or in groups; orally, in writing, or pantomimed), or what they're intended to measure (vocabulary, mathematical reasoning, spatial ability), all mental tests measure mostly the same thing. This common factor, g, can be distilled from scores on any broad set of cognitive tests, and it takes the same form among individuals of every age, race, sex, and nation yet studied. In other words, the g factor exists independently of schooling, paper-and-pencil tests, and culture.”

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on How does someone prove that their general intelligence is above average? · 2024-09-19T15:41:35.546Z · LW · GW

No one that I know based on first hand information, otherwise I probably would have included them as an example.

Most likely due the fact that people who succeeded at such have little reason to advertise it beyond a small circle.

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on How does someone prove that their general intelligence is above average? · 2024-09-19T15:36:57.136Z · LW · GW

So then what is the issue you want to discuss?

Neither of us can do more than offer our guesses and opinions on these two points.

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on How does someone prove that their general intelligence is above average? · 2024-09-17T17:10:36.326Z · LW · GW

Since I’m asking LW readers I imagine the default ‘degree of credence’ for any proof is something that the vast majority of LW readers will accept as the actual, bonafide, truth and are willing to acknowledge this when presented with it.

And predicting the future on a global scale, successfully, repeatedly, and precisely, has no correlated measures, if we assume precognition is impossible.

So we can conveniently sidestep this issue. Hence why I mentioned it…

I'm not sure there exists a formal operational definition of "general intelligence", there's no direct measurement possible

Then how can anyone prove, in the future, whether an AGI exists, or not?

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on How does someone prove that their general intelligence is above average? · 2024-09-17T01:13:22.166Z · LW · GW

Which tests are you referring to and how do they exactly measure general intelligence?

(And not say IQ or how much the test taker crammed…)

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on How does someone prove that their general intelligence is above average? · 2024-09-17T01:05:04.221Z · LW · GW

Well I agree it is a much higher bar than just ‘above average’, yet it still seems like the easiest way of delivering a credible proof that can’t be second guessed somehow. (That I can think of, hence the post)

Since ‘cheating’ at this would also mean that the person somehow has gained insider information for a calendar year that was above and beyond what the same ‘specialized institutions’ could obtain.

Which is so vanishingly unlikely that I think pretty much everyone (>99% of readers) would accept the results as the bonafide truth.

But it probably is limited only to literal geniuses and above as a practical mechanism.

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on tailcalled's Shortform · 2024-09-15T15:48:05.830Z · LW · GW

Blocking a lot isn’t necessarily bad or unproductive… but in this case it’s practically certain blocking thousands will eventually lead to blocking someone genuinely more correct/competent/intelligent/experienced/etc… than himself, due to sheer probability. (Since even a ‘sneering’ crank is far from literal random noise.)

Which wouldn’t matter at all for someone just messing around for fun, who can just treat X as a text-heavy entertainment system. But it does matter somewhat for anyone trying to do something meaningful and/or accomplish certain goals.

In short, blocking does have some, variable, credibility cost. Ranging from near zero to quite a lot, depending on who the blockee is.

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on Pay Risk Evaluators in Cash, Not Equity · 2024-09-07T23:58:15.233Z · LW · GW

Why not pay them nothing until they are shown to be correct with sufficiently credible proof, and then pay out a huge prize?

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on Book Review: What Even Is Gender? · 2024-09-06T18:58:48.998Z · LW · GW

Because it’s already settled, at least according to some authority with a better track record and higher credibility than any individual author/reviewer/OP/etc…

That’s pretty much always the intended meaning, whenever anyone copies text straight from a dictionary anywhere on this site.

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on Book Review: What Even Is Gender? · 2024-09-05T02:21:12.925Z · LW · GW

How does linking this make sense?

I’m not disputing the definitions, it’s already settled as indicated in the copied text.

And even if the OED were disputing this, it is already superior in authority to the OP, to you, and likely everyone else who read that link post, so its definitions are already accepted widely enough that random people on an internet forum can’t possibly alter that acceptance one way or the other.

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on Principles for the AGI Race · 2024-09-03T21:06:33.318Z · LW · GW

Can you list out any random three out of this ‘bunch’?

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on Principles for the AGI Race · 2024-09-03T06:05:46.976Z · LW · GW

What are the claims/arguments here?

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on One person's worth of mental energy for AI doom aversion jobs. What should I do? · 2024-09-02T19:11:07.195Z · LW · GW

"Endpoints are easier to predict than trajectories"

According to…? Can you link the proof?

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on Book Review: What Even Is Gender? · 2024-09-02T19:05:07.368Z · LW · GW

The OED defines ‘gender’, excluding obsolete meanings, as follows:

gender

  1. Grammar.

1.a. c1390– In some (esp. Indo-European) languages, as Latin, French, German, English, etc.: each of the classes (typically masculine, feminine, neuter, common) of nouns and pronouns distinguished by the different inflections which they have and which they require in words syntactically associated with them; similarly applied to adjectives (and in some languages) verbs, to denote the appropriate form for accompanying a noun of such a class. Also: the fact, condition, or property of belonging to such a class; the classification of language in this way. Sometimes called grammatical gender, to distinguish this sense from natural gender: see grammatical gender n., natural gender n. In most European languages, grammatical gender is now only very loosely associated with natural distinctions of sex. English is regarded as possessing natural gender in that certain pronouns expressing natural contrasts in gender are selected to refer to nouns according to the meaning of the nouns, the contrasts being either between masculine (e.g. he, his, etc.) and feminine (e.g. she, her, etc.) or between personal (e.g. the abovementioned masculine and feminine pronouns and who, whoever, etc.) and non-personal (e.g. it, its, which, etc.). In recent times nouns incorporating gender suffixes (esp. those indicating females and formed on generic nouns, such as authoress, poetess, etc.) have become much restricted in use. common, epicene, feminine, masculine, neuter gender, etc.: see the first element.

1.b. 1819– In extended use. Esp. in non-European languages: any of several other analogous categories into which nouns may be divided (regardless of any connection with sex).

3.a. 1474– gen. Males or females viewed as a group; = sex n.11. Also: the property or fact of belonging to one of these groups. Originally extended from the grammatical use at sense 1 (sometimes humorously), as also in Anglo-Norman and Old French. In the 20th cent., as sex came increasingly to mean sexual intercourse (see sex n.1 4b), gender began to replace it (in early use euphemistically) as the usual word for the biological grouping of males and females. It is now often merged with or coloured by sense 3b.

3.b. 1945– Psychology and Sociology (originally U.S.). The state of being male or female as expressed by social or cultural distinctions and differences, rather than biological ones; the collective attributes or traits associated with a particular sex, or determined as a result of one's sex. Also: a (male or female) group characterized in this way.

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on Darwinian Traps and Existential Risks · 2024-08-31T18:10:21.329Z · LW · GW

So of course ‘natural selection is not optimizing fitness’, since none of those things actually exist in the atoms, and electrons, and spacetime fabric, etc… that make up planet Earth.

i.e. There are no ‘natural selection’ molecules to be found anywhere.

And even the patterns are highly contingent on many factors, perhaps infinitely many, so they can’t be said to have discrete, separable, relationships in the literal sense.

It’s just convenient shorthand to describe something many people believe to be sufficiently understood enough among their peers, that they can get away with skipping some mental steps and verbage.

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on How do we know dreams aren't real? · 2024-08-31T18:02:50.954Z · LW · GW

How do you define ‘real’, ‘me’, ‘real me’, etc…?

This seems to be stemming from some internal confusion.

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on Would catching your AIs trying to escape convince AI developers to slow down or undeploy? · 2024-08-30T19:01:02.911Z · LW · GW

I don’t think my comment gave off the vibe that it is ‘easy/simple’ to do, just that it isn’t as much of a long shot as the alternative.

i.e. Waiting for someone smarter, more competent, politically savvier, etc…, to read your comment and then hoping for them to do it.

Which seems to have a very low probability of happening.

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on Fabien's Shortform · 2024-08-30T15:15:47.435Z · LW · GW

Why is this growth ‘in a few year’ plausible?

I still don’t see how this is a likely outcome.

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on Fabien's Shortform · 2024-08-30T09:36:16.895Z · LW · GW

Why is this a relevant analogy to ‘competition around LLMs’?

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on Would catching your AIs trying to escape convince AI developers to slow down or undeploy? · 2024-08-30T09:04:18.078Z · LW · GW

Then this seems to be an entirely different problem?

At the very least, resolving substantial differences in background assumptions is going to take a lot more than a ‘short presentation’.

And it’s very likely those in actual decision making positions will be much less charitable than me, since their secretaries receive hundreds or thousands of such petitions every week.

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on Shifting Headspaces - Transitional Beast-Mode · 2024-08-30T02:35:19.108Z · LW · GW

A ‘beast mode’ that no reader of LW will likely ever experience for even a full hour continuously is hardly a ‘mode’ is it? There are other terms for such phenomena.

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on Why Large Bureaucratic Organizations? · 2024-08-30T02:18:36.313Z · LW · GW

That probably applies to at least half of all the sociological/governance stuff posted on LW… Plus no existing literature search beyond the first page of google scholar, or sometimes even at all.

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on Would catching your AIs trying to escape convince AI developers to slow down or undeploy? · 2024-08-30T02:15:24.153Z · LW · GW

Why not just create this ‘short presentation’ yourself?

It probably wouldn’t even have half the word count of this comment you’ve already written, and should be much more persuasive than the whole thing.

I don’t want to pick on you specifically, but it’s hard to ignore the most direct and straightforward solution to the problems identified.

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on Wei Dai's Shortform · 2024-08-26T00:12:14.228Z · LW · GW

What makes you think there are any such ‘answers’, renderable in a form that you could identify?

And even if they do exist, why do you think a human being could fully grasp the explanation in finite time?

Edit: It seems quite possible that even the simplest such ‘answers’ could require many years of full time effort to understand, putting it beyond most if not all human memory capacity. i.e. By the end even those who ‘learned’ it will have forgotten many parts near the beginning.

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on the Giga Press was a mistake · 2024-08-24T22:35:59.340Z · LW · GW

What concerns me is the failure of institutions and cultural systems.

How do you know these ‘systems’ failed?

Don’t you need to be aware of the true internal reality of those cultures (of captains of industry, high ranking officials, literal geniuses, etc…) in the first place, in order to make an assessment?

If your talking about mass culture, or being generous, the 95th to 99.9th percentile intellectual cultures of the upper middle class, then it seems a bit irrelevant whether this engineering analysis ‘succeeded’ or ‘failed’.

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on Shifting Headspaces - Transitional Beast-Mode · 2024-08-21T00:59:45.489Z · LW · GW

In this sense, no one who is alive in a modern city for longer than a day could possibly be in ‘beast mode’. Because they would have stepped in front of a bus/truck chasing something, and gotten wrecked and therefore would no longer exist.

Nor could anyone enter ‘beast mode’ for any sustained period of time, and still remain alive.

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on leogao's Shortform · 2024-08-13T17:27:51.184Z · LW · GW

Motorola engineers figured this out a few decades ago, even 99.99 to 99.999 makes a huge difference on a large scale. They even published a few interesting papers and monographs on it from what I recall.

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on Californians, tell your reps to vote yes on SB 1047! · 2024-08-13T17:18:36.411Z · LW · GW

If “It's really non-central to the point” then it should be quick and easy to have the OP correct the misleading claim and issue an apology to anyone who may have taken it at face value?

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on Ordinary human life · 2024-08-12T07:31:55.668Z · LW · GW

Everyone has cancer 24/7, at least a few cancerous cells exist in even the healthiest people at any given time. It just doesn’t become a noticeable problem for some portion of the population before they pass away.

To actually do away with all cancerous cells, in the literal sense, would definitely imply they are not ‘us’, at least not any more than some shapeshifting alien taking human form can be considered so.

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on This is Water by David Foster Wallace · 2024-04-29T02:13:54.003Z · LW · GW

If someone, who really is this prone to dangerously overthink, reads this many words about not thinking in so many words, it seems like it could also cause the opposite effect?

It could condition them to read more long winded explanations in the hopes of uncovering another diamond of wisdom buried in the rough. 

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on Alexander Gietelink Oldenziel's Shortform · 2024-04-14T19:13:14.965Z · LW · GW

There's a market for lemons problem, similar to the used car market, where neither the therapist nor customer can detect all hidden problems, pitfalls, etc., ahead of time. And once you do spend enough time to actually form a reasonable estimate there's no takebacks possible.

So all the actually quality therapists will have no availability and all the lower quality therapists will almost by definition be associated with those with availability.

Edit: Game Theory suggests that you should never engage in therapy or at least never with someone with available time, at least until someone invents the certified pre-owned market.

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on on the dollar-yen exchange rate · 2024-04-08T00:58:51.683Z · LW · GW

Employees aren't kept long enough to justify training them!

This is actually a benefit in disguise, at least for the efficiency of management in large organizations. And is probably sufficient to explain a large chunk of the 2x difference.

The hyper effective self learners who thrive in this paradigm and get promoted end up being smarter per unit time than even the best japanese employees. Which translates to being smarter overall after several promotion.

I.e. every minute spent on something reduces their attainable competence somewhere else as schedules are maxed out once you reach middle management. There's only 24 hours a day after all.

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on Natural Latents: The Concepts · 2024-03-25T02:34:59.376Z · LW · GW

That’s true but you still have let’s say 2^1000000 afterwards.

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on The Comcast Problem · 2024-03-22T15:23:21.410Z · LW · GW

Why does it matter? ‘Vibes’ are nowhere near as good as satisfying shareholders sufficiently or having enough money in the bank account to be a credible operating business, at least in market economies, certainly I imagine Comcast decision makers would care a lot more about the actual legally binding concerns more than all the good ‘vibes’ in the world.

e.g. If their financials seem shaky one day and they could somehow double their cashflow by sacrificing ‘vibes’, they would gladly welcome all the bad ‘vibes’ you could possibly have, times a million. It literally would be a welcome relief to accept this in exchange for more money.

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on Social status part 2/2: everything else · 2024-03-19T21:16:56.711Z · LW · GW

There’s actually a meta-status problem with any group discussion of status, namely that if the group members judge it to have a below average chance of winning a status competition, in whatever sphere of activity they are engaged in, then its members have incentives to block or ignore the discussion.

Or even downplay the group itself, its quality, etc…, if they can’t prevent the discussion, much like hunting groups for meat. This especially applies for group members who perceive themselves to be in the most marginal, low status, cohort.

The core reason is nobody wants to be known as a 100% guaranteed loser, so anyone who already has below average prospects is going to feel extremely sensitive about even the slightest chance of the group losing future status competitions and thus dragging them down even further.

Although this doesn’t apply to the most valuable group members, who presumably view themselves as having above average status, the opposite problem occurs, namely that actually winning a status competition might attract people who are above them into joining, and thus diluting their own influence, or even worse, relegating them to the second tier. (this doesn’t apply if the group is already at the very highest level)

So paradoxically only the ‘middle-class’ members reliably do anything more than empty talking, at least for status constrained issues. Literally everyone else has incentives to talk a big game but also prevent anything decisive.

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on What is the best argument that LLMs are shoggoths? · 2024-03-17T18:25:34.374Z · LW · GW

That seems to be an argument for something more than random noise going on, but not an argument for ‘LLMs are shuggoths’?

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on Celiefs · 2024-03-17T12:50:55.905Z · LW · GW

This definition seems so vague and broad as to be unusuable.

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on To the average human, controlled AI is just as lethal as 'misaligned' AI · 2024-03-17T01:38:42.170Z · LW · GW

Both are bad, but only one of them necessarily destroys everything I value.

You don’t value the Sun, or the other stars in the sky?

Even in the most absurdly catastrophic scenarios it doesn’t seem plausible that they could be ‘necessarily destroyed’.

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on 'Empiricism!' as Anti-Epistemology · 2024-03-16T01:25:49.196Z · LW · GW

The shorter the better. Or as Lao Tzu said, Those who know don’t talk. Those who talk don’t know…

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on My Clients, The Liars · 2024-03-12T16:18:24.722Z · LW · GW

The disclaimer doesn’t need to enumerate a full list, as long as it points out that a nebulous cloud of potential and actual caveats exists and may apply is sufficient.

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on Evolution did a surprising good job at aligning humans...to social status · 2024-03-12T12:25:10.111Z · LW · GW

The threshold still has to be greater than zero power for its ‘care’ to matter one way or the other. And the risk that you mention needs to be accepted as part of the package, so to speak.

So who gets to decide where to place it above zero?

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on My Clients, The Liars · 2024-03-12T12:21:19.572Z · LW · GW

Why not add a disclaimer spelling out that what’s written could be false or misleading depending on the caveats?

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on Tamsin Leake's Shortform · 2024-03-12T12:06:10.323Z · LW · GW

“AI Safety”, especially enforcing anything, does pretty much boil down to human alignment, i.e. politics, but there are practically zero political geniuses among its proponent, so it needs to be dressed up a bit to sound even vaguely plausible.

It’s a bit of a cottage industry nowadays.

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on Acting Wholesomely · 2024-03-12T11:52:20.548Z · LW · GW

Wouldn’t that imply the existence of this essay, available for anyone passing by to read, is a net negative?

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on Storable Votes with a Pay as you win mechanism: a contribution for institutional design · 2024-03-12T11:49:22.302Z · LW · GW

Like the parent said "Deport all Rationalists" or even “Deport everyone named Arturo Macias” are entirely feasible to accomplish with available resources…

It seems like the more important issue is who gets to decide what to vote on and what is presented for voting?

e.g. if the limit is say 1 vote per day, allowing for sufficient time for reflection and study of the issue at hand assuming perfect allocation of time, there’s still way more then 365 possible things a year to vote on.

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on Evolution did a surprising good job at aligning humans...to social status · 2024-03-12T02:53:26.590Z · LW · GW

If the agent had no power whatsoever to effect the world then it wouldn’t matter if it cared or not.

So the real desire is that it must have a sufficient amount, but not over some threshold that will prove to be too frightening.

Who gets to decide this threhsold?

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on Thomas Kwa's Shortform · 2024-03-07T05:03:15.818Z · LW · GW

But an even larger flaw is that they have very small filter areas for no apparent reason. 

Is reducing cost of manufacturing filters 'no apparent reason'?

It seems like literally the most important reason... the profit margin of selling replacement filters would be heavily reduced, assuming pricing remains the same.

Comment by M. Y. Zuo on Jimrandomh's Shortform · 2024-03-05T01:19:12.602Z · LW · GW

That's a really neat point, has it ever been addressed in prior literature, that you've gone over?