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The Regularizing-Reducing Model 2018-04-01T01:16:06.644Z

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Comment by RyenKrusinga on The Regularizing-Reducing Model · 2018-04-04T15:00:09.813Z · LW · GW

Thanks! I knew people had essentially devised these ideas before (and if they had instantly worked we would have solved FAI already), but think there is something to be gained via a reinterpretation of the ideas in the RRM. For example, if the human value function derives from discoverable symmetries of neural structure and external environment, then we can do the work to discover these and directly impose them in the agent architecture. And I think the statement I just made is not trivially equivalent to telling people “find human rewards and put them in the agent” (which is literally the whole FAI problem all over again). Symmetry is an empirically discoverable property and also a strong constraint for optimization purposes. Under symmetric constraints the agent still needs to learn human values, but may have an easier time of it. Anyway, clearly I’ve not done a great job communicating, and the ideas are all in intuition stage. Maybe in the future I’ll actually try to prove a reinforcement learning theorem using RRM philosophy.

Comment by RyenKrusinga on The Regularizing-Reducing Model · 2018-04-03T15:01:58.092Z · LW · GW

Ah, sorry: the way I used it in the paper, it's my own coinage, meant to evoke the traditional usage. When I say there a large "mathematical body of work," I mean abstract algebra for symmetry, classical machine learning for the usual meaning of "regularizer," and indirectly the work on complex systems theory, attractor theory, control theory, etc. I created my own meaning of the word "regularizer" because I have a philosophical intuition that the concept in traditional machine learning is generalizable, perhaps by something like a "category of regularizers" (to borrow from category theory) that can be described as energy landscapes that force some processes to approximate others, where these landscapes can be specified according to their symmetries (sort of like how periodic functions can be decomposed into sinusoids via fourier transforms, or how datasets can be broken into principle components).

Epistemic status of these ideas: just the hunch of someone with a B.S. in theoretical math and a penchant for philosophy.

The hope is that someone can read the paper and be like, "Aha! This was just the reframing I needed to make progress on this reinforcement learning problem I was stuck on." But if it's not useful to you, it's not useful. I wouldn't mind knowing, so I can do better in the future, whether or not any of the 6 alignment strategies listed at the end sounded even remotely like useful approaches to the value alignment problem.

Comment by RyenKrusinga on The Regularizing-Reducing Model · 2018-04-02T13:29:22.156Z · LW · GW

I sort of agree with your criticism: I wish I had more time to clarify my approach, and make it more mathematically precise, but I only decided at the last minute to even try to submit to the alignment competition. So I was scrambling to take down a minimal version of the idea. The call for the prize lists "philosophical" as one possible type of entry, so I kept everything verbal, trying to be just precise enough to point the way to a true formalization.

I do understand the problem of grasping slippery things as pointed out in the linked less wrong article: any reframing of a problem that just maps a set of words to a different set of words cannot by itself add to understanding, because it adds no moving parts to the model. However, I disagree that directly adding moving parts is the only means of progress in a problem domain. Sometimes the right labeling of concepts appeals to intuition enough to catalyze further progress. The right labeling can also bridge the gap between experts in different fields. From what I can tell, MIRI doesn't even try to bridge the communication gap with useful people like, say, complex systems theorists and control systems theorists (fields which are both absurdly relevant to the task). MIRI just whines that no one else is working on the problem of friendly AI and continues working in their own bubble.

The advantage of discussing "symmetries" and "regularizers" is that *there is a large mathematical body of work on these problems.* Explicitly acknowledging time dynamics and agent ecosystems brings in control theory and complex systems theory. Also, I tried to make the case that "utility" and "reward," basic concepts referred to by researchers, are *themselves* slippery. It's unclear in the traditional framing how a "reward" specifically maps onto causal processes in the world; it's taken as a primitive, a "meaningful number", giving the illusion of precision. Classifying rewards and other agent control problems as symmetries of regularizers potentially allows us to import all of Abstract Algebra to the task of describing moving parts.

Comment by RyenKrusinga on Announcement: AI alignment prize winners and next round · 2018-04-01T01:29:45.229Z · LW · GW

I emailed my submission, but for the sake of redundancy, I'll submit it here too:

"The Regularizing-Reducing Model"

https://www.lesserwrong.com/posts/36umH9qtfwoQkkLTp/the-regularizing-reducing-model