Value Notion - Questions to Ask

post by aysajan · 2022-01-17T15:35:16.293Z · LW · GW · 0 comments

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Continuing my previous post [LW · GW] on the subject of value notion, in this post I will try to make another small step towards a big goal of value notion. Specifically, I attempt to explore what kind of major questions we can ask about the value of something. The list may not be comprehensive, but I believe those questions are important ones.

Let’s start with an example. If I want to understand the value of an individual, for instance, Elon Musk, I can look at several things. First, what is the main purpose of Elon Musk? We can say his purpose is to make human life multiplanetary or save humanity from AI dominance or simply be a good father. Some purposes are more valuable than others. For instance, in general an individual with good deeds is more valuable than someone who wants to harm others.

Next important question is: the value to whom? Who/what is at the receiving end? Depending on the object, the value might be different. I can say that my value to my family is bigger than my value to a random person on the street. Additionally, this “whom” does not need to be a person (and that’s why “willingness to pay” is not general enough). For instance, the beneficiary of a tree in front of my house could be the soil (I can also claim that the tree is the beneficiary of the soil), the birds that set a nest, or a squirrel playing on that tree. 

Third question is: the value at what time? The same thing might have different values at different times. For instance, my value as an adult is bigger than my value as a child. As an adult, my family can count on me, and my employer can count on me on certain things. If I am a child, I usually count on someone else to take care of me. 

In general, there are at least three elements that need to be evaluated when we want to answer the value question: (1) main purpose, (2) the receiver, and (3) time. The value of something with the main purpose of X to Y at time Z might be very different from the value of the same thing to Y at time C, which again might be very different from the value of the same thing to B at time Z.  But I feel like it is too early (and might be wrong) to claim that the value of something is a function of main purpose, receiver, and time. More on this in later posts.

More examples

Let’s look at some more examples, in which the object is not a human being.

What could be done next? 

What I want to focus on next is the time element. As I mentioned earlier, over time, things change, which in turn change the value of some other things. What I am interested in is to see what changes over time for different things and how those changes affect the value of things. What are the causal relationships among value, time, and factors that change over time, if there are any?

What might be missing?

Lots of things. For instance, the value of a car is zero without a driver behind the wheel (self-driving cars are a different story.), or, the value of a musician will be much higher with an instrument, etc. My brief discussion [LW · GW] with dagon [LW · GW] in my previous post left many questions unanswered. But how important are they? If several factors can explain 90% of the variation in value of something, I am happy to move forward with those factors and ignore others. But I will leave this question for future posts on the topic.



 

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