[SEQ RERUN] No, Really, I've Deceived Myself

post by MinibearRex · 2013-03-15T07:04:40.521Z · LW · GW · Legacy · 2 comments

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Today's post, No, Really, I've Deceived Myself was originally published on 04 March 2009. A summary (taken from the LW wiki):

 

Some people who have fallen into self-deception haven't actually deceived themselves. Some of them simply believe that they have deceived themselves, but have not actually done this.


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comment by Qiaochu_Yuan · 2013-03-15T07:09:09.327Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

My current reaction to situations like this one is more or less the following:

There are beliefs, and then there are the things that people say.

-- Geoff Anders

(Geoff seems to use "belief" to mean alief, more or less.)

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comment by torekp · 2013-03-24T16:03:21.198Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Hypothesis: in many important cases someone with an alief tending toward not-A and a belief that A, will behave differently than someone otherwise similar who consistently endorses not-A. Assuming the belief that A came about in the right way, that's genuine self-deception.