[SEQ RERUN] Lost Purposes

post by MinibearRex · 2011-11-06T00:14:52.216Z · LW · GW · Legacy · 2 comments

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Today's post, Lost Purposes was originally published on 25 November 2007. A summary (taken from the LW wiki):

 

It is possible for the various steps in a complex plan to become valued in and of themselves, rather than as steps to achieve some desired goal. It is especially easy if the plan is being executed by a complex organization, where each group or individual in the organization is only evaluated by whether or not they carry out their assigned step. When this process is carried to its extreme, we get Soviet shoe factories manufacturing tiny shoes to increase their production quotas, and the No Child Left Behind Act.


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comment by buybuydandavis · 2011-11-06T23:50:16.187Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

You see this a lot in politics, where opposition to a policy is taken as evidence of opposition to the purported goals of a policy. The policy itself becomes an unquestioned, automatic value.

Was that a real anecdote about the shoes? That's pretty funny. I'd like a pair of them. It would make a nice gift to government officials.

The shoe example seems more of a case of the problems of enforcing top down goals, and the inherent conflicts between individuals enacting collective goals. The shoe goal was probably never any particular person's goal in the first place.