[SEQ RERUN] Belief in Self-Deception

post by MinibearRex · 2013-03-16T05:58:43.062Z · LW · GW · Legacy · 2 comments

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Today's post, Belief in Self-Deception was originally published on 05 March 2009. A summary (taken from the LW wiki):

 

Deceiving yourself is harder than it seems. What looks like a successively adopted false belief may actually be just a belief in false belief.


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This post is part of the Rerunning the Sequences series, where we'll be going through Eliezer Yudkowsky's old posts in order so that people who are interested can (re-)read and discuss them. The previous post was No, Really, I've Deceived Myself, and you can use the sequence_reruns tag or rss feed to follow the rest of the series.

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comment by wanderingsoul · 2013-03-16T19:46:18.993Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Moderately on topic:

I'll occasionally take "drugs" like airborne to boost my immune system if I feel myself coming down with something. I fully know that they have little to no medicinal effect, but I also know the placebo effect is real and well documented. In the end, I take them because I expect them to trigger a placebo effect where I feel better, and expect it to work because the placebo effect is real. This feels silly.

I wonder whether it is possible to switch out the physical action of taking a pill with an entirely mental event and get this same effect. I also wonder if this is just called optimism. Lastly, I wonder if I truly believe that "drugs" like airborne are able to help me, or just believe I believe, and am unsure what impact that has on my expectations given the placebo effect.

comment by Manfred · 2013-03-16T10:04:08.537Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Hey, we're all the way to LW content now! :)