Draft papers for REALab and Decoupled Approval on tampering
post by Jonathan Uesato, Ramana Kumar (ramana-kumar) · 2020-10-28T16:01:12.968Z · LW · GW · 2 commentsContents
2 comments
Hi everyone, we (Ramana Kumar, Jonathan Uesato, Victoria Krakovna, Tom Everitt, and Richard Ngo) have been working on a strand of work researching tampering problems, and we've written up our progress in two papers. We're sharing drafts in advance here because we'd like to get feedback from everyone here.
The first paper covers:
- How and when tampering problems might arise in the real world
- Key assumptions in standard RL frameworks we relax to allow modeling tampering
- How we model and measure tampering empirically, through our internal platform REALab, and
- How we formalize tampering problems, through our Corrupt Feedback MDP formalism
We particularly hope it clears up the concept of tampering (and why "but the agent maximized its given reward function" typically assumes the wrong framing), and internally, we've found REALab to be a useful mental model.
The second paper describes:
- Decoupled approval, an algorithm closely related to approval direction and Counterfactual Oracles, and designed to be straightforwardly compatible with standard deep RL
- An analysis of this algorithm (within the CFMDP formalism), and
- Empirical validation (in REALab)
We'd love to get feedback on these; the current drafts are viewable in this Google Drive folder. We're happy to discuss these on whichever of LessWrong/Alignment Forum/Google Drive comments, and would prefer to keep discussion on these forums for now, as we'll share the papers more widely after they're posted on arXiv in a few weeks. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts!
2 comments
Comments sorted by top scores.
comment by Ben Pace (Benito) · 2020-10-28T20:07:40.991Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
PSA: You can write comment on PDFs in google drive!
There's a button in the top right that says "Add a comment" on hover-over, then you get to click-and-drag to highlight a box in the PDF where your comment goes. I will leave a test comment on the first PDF so everyone can see that.
(I literally just found this out.)
comment by Charlie Steiner · 2020-11-06T19:39:42.772Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
Very interesting. Naturalizing feedback (as opposed to directly accessing True Reward) seems like it could lead to a lot of desirable emergent behaviors, though I'm somewhat nervous about reliance on a handwritten model of what reliable feedback is.