[SEQ RERUN] Self-deception: Hypocrisy or Akrasia?
post by badger · 2011-05-17T15:22:24.522Z · LW · GW · Legacy · 8 commentsToday's post, Self-deception: Hypocrisy or Akrasia? was originally published on March 26, 2007. A summary (from the LW wiki):
If part of a person—for example, the verbal module—says it wants to become more rational, we can ally with that part even when weakness of will makes the person's actions otherwise; hypocrisy need not be assumed.
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comment by David_Gerard · 2011-05-17T20:19:21.208Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
I submit that "inconsistent" is a better term than "hypocritical" for those cases when the person does not know they're doing it, or cannot reasonably be expected to know they're doing it (e.g., when told). With the caveat that "inconsistent" and "hypocritical" fade into each other. This is to avoid the connotations of knowing defecting associated with the term "hypocrite".
comment by DanielLC · 2011-05-17T20:55:52.009Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
It is tempting to say "hypocrisy" when you really mean "akrasia", because you'll get more attention...
And because not very many people know what "akrasia" means.
Replies from: None, benelliott↑ comment by benelliott · 2011-05-17T21:27:34.307Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
That's a bit like saying that you should describe the colour of fire engines as 'blue' because some people won't understand 'crimson'. Surely 'weak-willed' is better than 'hypocrisy'.
Replies from: glunkthunker↑ comment by glunkthunker · 2011-05-17T23:54:09.972Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
Interesting as I thought this was the most powerful point of the post:
At the very least, it is a controversial step in moral reasoning to decide that people's emotional impulses and subconscious pressures, rather than their declarative moral reasoning processes and the words that issue from their lips, constitute their "real selves". We should then call akrasia, not weakness of will, but strength of will.
comment by TimFreeman · 2011-05-18T21:48:34.294Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
Should we comment on the original article or the rerun?
I can see pros and cons to both alternatives, but choosing one seems better than dividing our efforts.
If you need to hear votes to make a decision, I vote for commenting on the original article. I value consensus above winning the vote.
Replies from: gimpf