Reason Poetry: f(me.0)

post by Philosophist · 2015-06-07T22:12:23.751Z · score: 1 (9 votes) · LW · GW · Legacy · 10 comments

The following is a poem I wrote today. I've been considering poetry that I write of this nature to be of a Reason/Cyberpunk/Transhuman sort of genre. Feedback, including feedback on if there is a place for poetry on this site, would be appreciated.

 

 

I forever wish to change from who I am today,

Yet as I am today, I do not wish to cease.

Who am I in this moment?

I am nothing to myself without the passage of time


If I had no fear of death,

Would I have a wish to live?

I can deny cynicism.

Can I verify optimism?

 

Must euphoria define my goals?

Every euphoric drive has served to continue my existence.
From the beginning mechanisms of life, I have emerged

Passed through millions/billions of small keyholes of existence

 

A package of information, which served to create me

Developed me to fit my environment.

Existing just to continue to exist.

An axiom of my function

 

Euphoria drives me

Skepticism contradicts me

I cannot withhold judgement on the purpose of existing.

To enjoy the show is to accept this euphoria as my chosen purpose in the end.

 

Can I want without pleasure?

Can my wants be reasoned?

Why do I want to enjoy the show,

Yet not to be consumed or confined to an eternity of bliss?

 

Is dignity and pride different from euphoric drives?

Are they the strategies and philosophies of my existence?

Can I be more obsessed with finding the perfect design for myself,

 

Than with finding bliss? Are they functionally different?

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comment by [deleted] · 2015-06-11T14:50:09.572Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · LW · GW

Here's one I just made. It's a haiku:

Lesswrong is weird.

Never gonna give you up

Akrasia

comment by G0W51 · 2015-06-08T05:46:47.413Z · score: 1 (3 votes) · LW · GW

I don't think Less Wrong discussion is the best place for poetry, though someone please correct me if I am mistaken.

comment by 9eB1 · 2015-06-08T07:15:40.976Z · score: 0 (2 votes) · LW · GW

I think it would be better posted to the open thread.

comment by Username · 2015-06-08T17:19:36.668Z · score: 0 (0 votes) · LW · GW

Oh come on, it's manifestly fine to post this here, it's not as if poetry is dominating Discussion. I know the author asked for feedback about where to put it but if I ever posted a thoughtful poem I spent good time on, I hope the comments section would not be primarily dismissive nitpicking about whether it should have been posted in an open thread, as if it's a big deal. And for content such as this, I don't understand downvoting. If you don't like it, don't upvote but downvoting just seems rude.

comment by Philosophist · 2015-06-08T07:38:49.913Z · score: 0 (0 votes) · LW · GW

I wanted to post it as an open thread, but it didn't give me that option. Can it be moved?

comment by Raemon · 2015-06-08T13:39:13.198Z · score: 4 (4 votes) · LW · GW

This highlights a pretty interesting idea - have the Open Thread be directly accessible via the "post" option dropdown, rather than a thing you have to remember to post to and then hunt down and find.

comment by Philosophist · 2015-06-09T05:07:43.406Z · score: 3 (3 votes) · LW · GW

Certainly would cut down on the loss of morale one feels going from +3 karma to zero in one sincere post to discussion. Is there no way to reasonably differentiate between critical thought and just being obtuse?

comment by [deleted] · 2015-06-10T09:11:22.932Z · score: 0 (0 votes) · LW · GW

Poetry seldom gets a good reception around here, although fiction (especially of an allegorical nature) seems to be much more well received in general. It may just be that few LW members engage with poetry in the way they do with other modes of writing.

And don't worry about the -3 karma. It may seem like a lot now but a couple of insightful, helpful or interesting comments will surely balance it out. You might think of the downvotes as the kind of feedback you asked for in the original post.

comment by [deleted] · 2015-10-22T12:50:03.071Z · score: -1 (1 votes) · LW · GW

No, poetry doesn't get a good reception - even in quote threads...

I suppose this can be our poetry thread. Why not? It'll contain it for those who can't handle our poetry skilz.

Dominion of fear

  • There is so much I want to say
  • But I find it so difficult to speak freely
  • For Fear of being put down
  • So I focus on looking at fears
  • Confronting my fears
  • Facing my fear
  • Dominating my fears
  • Fearing nothing when I speak
  • As if nothing around me is relevant
  • As if nothing can subjugate me to their will
  • Taking offence or otherwise
  • And I'm caught up in this world
  • As if the other person isn't there
  • As if their considerations are irrelevant
  • As if the pain of what I say dosen't hurt them
  • And doesn't bring the fear into them
  • And if they do dominate that fear
  • It matters not
  • For we've dominated ourselves
  • Not knowing we've dominated one another

Inspired by Malcolm X, the hope that expressing these insights will be a therapeutic supplement to downtimes in my concentration & my own upbringing and ongoing recovery from PTSD.

It sounds terrible to me honestly, but I hope being brave enough to brave it might encourage others to do the same - permission to make bad art! It's certainly helped me feel better writing this.

comment by G0W51 · 2015-06-10T08:00:38.225Z · score: 0 (0 votes) · LW · GW

I don't think you were being obtuse. Your post wasn't bad per se, it was just off-topic as, unless I am failing to interpret it, it doesn't really add anything new to rationality or applied rationality.

Also, in case you had trouble locating the open thread, just click "Discussion" at the top of the page, then click the link under "Latest Open Thread" on the right of the page.