The trolleycar dilemma, an MIT moral problem app
post by morganism · 2017-01-16T19:32:20.170Z · LW · GW · Legacy · 5 commentsThis is a link post for http://moralmachine.mit.edu/
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comment by TiffanyAching · 2017-01-17T00:52:17.961Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
This is pretty fun in a sick way. Suck it, pedestrians! I wonder how much their results will be skewed by people answering flippantly?
For the record I didn't mess with the test, I honestly tried to judge the scenarios, even though trolleycar problems drive me nuts. I swear if I'm ever in that freakin' trolley I'll run over the five kids on one track then go back and beat the other one to death with a shovel.
If a consensus emerges I predict that it would go "kids over adults, humans over animals, law-abiders over law breakers" and maybe "old adults over young adults" but what the hierarchy would be when rules conflict is trickier to guess.
Also interesting that they chose the emotive term "flouting the law" over the more obvious "breaking the law".
Replies from: cousin_it, morganism↑ comment by cousin_it · 2017-01-18T14:18:34.251Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
Amusingly, the test also wants to know your preferences on men vs women, overweight vs healthy, and poor vs rich. Or at least it's happy to insinuate such preferences even if you answered all questions using other criteria. I'm surprised the smart folks at MIT didn't add more questions to unambiguously figure out the user's criteria whenever possible.
Replies from: TiffanyAching↑ comment by TiffanyAching · 2017-01-18T19:25:03.697Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
They're allowing users to build their own scenarios and add them as well, so it looks like the intention is to let the complexity grow over time from a basic starting point.
Actually, I wonder whether they might find that people really don't want a great deal of complexity in the decision-making process. People might prefer to go with a simple "minimize loss off life, prioritize kids" rule and leave it at that, because we're used to cars as a physical hazard that kill blindly when they kill at all. People might be more morally comfortable with smart cars that aren't too smart.
comment by morganism · 2017-01-16T20:26:57.509Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
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