[SEQ RERUN] Zombies! Zombies?

post by MinibearRex · 2012-03-23T23:03:31.126Z · LW · GW · Legacy · 2 comments

Today's post, Zombies! Zombies? was originally published on 04 April 2008. A summary (taken from the LW wiki):

 

Don't try to put your consciousness or your personal identity outside physics. Whatever makes you say "I think therefore I am", causes your lips to move; it is within the chains of cause and effect that produce our observed universe.


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comment by David_Gerard · 2012-03-24T19:18:14.787Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Argh, zombies. I must admit that the fact that professional philosophers don't just shun proponents of p-zombie theory counts for me as a serious black mark against the current practice of professional philosophy. Possibly I am insufficiently open-minded.

comment by moridinamael · 2012-03-24T21:51:37.891Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

I really enjoyed re-reading this post because it contains a sort of exhibition of several rationalist skills. Namely, Eliezer emphasizes that the explanation of a thing should make that thing less mysterious, should provide some increased insight into its inner workings; that simpler theories are more likely to be correct than complex ones, and why; that reductionism as a habit of thought leads to fewer instances of cognitively painting oneself into a corner; that being unable to easily spot the flaw in an argument doesn't say much about whether the argument is flawed; that introspection alone is not a reliable means of obtaining universal truth; I could keep going.