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comment by noggin-scratcher · 2024-11-26T01:53:40.147Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
While I can appreciate it on the level of nerd aesthetics, I would be dubious of the choice of Quenya. Unless you're already a polyglot (as a demonstration of your aptitude for language-learning), it seems unlikely—without a community of speakers to immerse yourself in—that you'll reach the kind of fluid fluency that would make it natural to think in a conlang.
And if you do in fact have the capacity to acquire a language to that degree of fluency so easily, but don't already have several of the major world languages, it seems to me that the benefits of being able to communicate with an additional fraction of the world's population would outweigh those of knowing a language selected for mostly no-one else knowing it.
comment by Zachary · 2024-11-26T17:11:05.346Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
If you're trying to make the most of your abundant free time then learning Quenya is a mistake. Learning a language nobody speaks seriously is at best a way to signal status to a very specific group of people and at worst a party trick
Some ideas of ways to spend that time that would pay higher dividends over the course of the rest of your life:
- learn a musical instrument
- become skilled at a competitive game (mtg, poker, rocket league, chess, etc)
- practice yoga
- personally I've found practicing yoga to be the best thing I can do for making me feel good in my body on a daily basis, which I see as a prerequisite for being effective at pursuing other goals
- go running
- invest in a relationship (call a friend/family member on the phone whom you otherwise wouldn't)
Read at least 20+ books on rationality, decision-making, heuristics and biases, etc.
Here are some of my favorites, in order of the impact they made on my life:
- Language in Thought and Action
- Yudkowsky's sequences
- Class by Paul Fussel (taken with a large grain of salt. not really rationalist but caused me to update significantly)
- Influence: science and practice
comment by Shankar Sivarajan (shankar-sivarajan) · 2024-11-26T03:57:09.140Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
Quenya resources you might find useful (though you've probably seen most of these):
- The Vinyë Lambengolmor Discord - Extremely helpful community.
- Eldamo - The main dictionary (includes lots of useful neologisms), but it also has an intro to Quenya.
- Quettali - Constructs the declension and conjugation tables for the words in Eldamo's dictionary. (Mirror: ungwe.net)
If you also want to write in the Tengwar, see Tecendil and BSSScribe.
Thinking in Quenya might not be a reasonable goal.
comment by abstractapplic · 2024-11-26T01:17:49.697Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
CS from MIT OCW
Good choice of topic.
(5:00-6:00 AM)
(6:00-7:00 AM)
Everyone has their own needs and tolerances, so I won't presume to know yours . . . and if you're trying to build daily habits, "every morning" is probably easier to reliably schedule than "every night" . . . but still, sleep is a big deal, especially for intellectual work. If you're not unsually good at going without for long stretches, and/or planning to turn in before 10pm to compensate . . . you might benefit from a slightly less Spartan schedule.
- Put together a plan to learn to write and execute it.
What kind(s) of writing do you want to be able to produce?
- Practice
I'm curious how you plan on practicing your rationality, and how you intend to measure improvement. As far as I can tell our subculture has been trying to figure this out for a decade and change, with sharply limited success.
Replies from: aproteinengine↑ comment by aproteinengine · 2024-11-26T10:34:29.323Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
CS: Thanks! Although I've done a lot of CS over the past four years - ML, apps, published papers, worked in labs at MIT, etc.- I've never formally immersed myself in theory by watching lectures or reading CS books. Since MIT OCW approximates a flexible and structured curriculum, I thought it best (the fact that the MIT Challenge exists and that I have friends taking the actual classes at MIT were no small factors either).
Sleep: My sleep schedules have been messy for the past two years, but I'm trying to make it a habit to sleep by 9 (10, latest) to ensure I get a steady 8 hours.
Writing: I hope to be able to write blog posts (such as this one) better. I struggled to sketch out what I wanted to say and found putting it on paper to be Herculean. It's a bit hard for me to illustrate what exactly I mean by "better," but writing closer to what William Zinnser and Paul Graham is what I'm targeting right now. I'm going about this as Ben Franklin did. I'll modify my approach as I go. The currently-set goal for writing is to be able to become able to write something like Not Boring for protein design.
“One such exercise he documents was taking a favorite magazine of his, The Spectator, and taking notes on articles that appeared there. He would then leave the notes for a few days and come back to them, trying to reconstruct the original argument from memory. After finishing, he “compared my Spectator with the original, discovered some of my faults, and corrected them.” Realizing that his vocabulary was limited, he developed another strategy. By turning the prose into verse, he could replace words with synonyms that matched in meter or rhyme. To improve his sense of the rhetorical flow of an essay, he tried his imitation approach again, but this time he jumbled up the hints so he would have to determine the correct order of the sequence of ideas as he wrote again.Once he had established some of the mechanics of writing, he moved on to the more difficult task of writing in a style that would persuade. When reading an English grammar book, he was exposed to the idea of the Socratic method, of challenging another’s ideas through probing questions rather than direct contradiction. He then went to work, carefully avoiding “abrupt contradiction and positive argumentation,” instead focusing[…]” - Ultralearning
Practice: I'm working through the CFAR handbook right now. (I understand it isn't a substitute for the actual camp, but the Atlas Fellowship's gone). I'm picking one concept from it, committing it to memory (SRS), executing it every chance I get during the day, and journalling the results at night. I review them in the morning and make notes on improvement. I'm going to apply for ESPR when it opens up again. [Edit: Found Hammertime [? · GW]]
comment by cesiumquail · 2024-11-26T02:54:21.786Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
Cool! I’m going to add my thoughts here, but I’m no authority so feel free to ignore and do whatever feels best.
Waking up early is fine as long as you’re also going to bed early. Chronic sleep deprivation is bad.
If you’re studying CS, give special attention to machine learning and the current AI landscape. It’s hard to predict what AI will look like in five years, but it’s the most important thing to be tracking.
If learning Quenya is fun and intrinsically rewarding, then that’s great, but if you’re doing it for practical reasons there are probably more efficient options. I actually have a system for writing things I don’t want anyone to read. I write in English, but I replace key words with other words based on associations that only I would find meaningful. This requires no preparatory memorization and is basically impossible to decrypt without my brain, as long as I don’t give away the meaning with context clues.
For writing, the two essential things are to have good ideas and to communicate them clearly. In my opinion Scott Alexander is the best example of this, so here’s his guide to nonfiction writing. I endorse just copying his style unless you find something you like better.
I would add a few things about writing:
- Make everything predictable and standard except the most important parts that you want to emphasize.
- Be honest and use the tone that feels most natural.
- Spend most of your effort searching for the best ideas. Then just write them down clearly.
For general rationality, books aren’t all that helpful in my opinion. There’s a sensitivity to the specifics of each situation that’s hard to transmit except by direct example. I think you would get more out of following people who seem smart. I endorse Eliezer Yudkowsky, Scott Alexander, Wei Dai, Gwern, Connor Leahy, Dwarkesh Patel, and Stefan Schubert.
comment by renato · 2024-11-26T02:12:46.461Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
I guess you will have several recurrent tasks and some short/medium-term goals, then i'd recommend using something like this to track how calibrated your predictions/estimations are:
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/8JEHPAcJ6ppywtkqK/calibrated-estimation-of-workload [LW · GW]
It helps you not only to organize what you are doing and how are you progressing, but also to cultivate a better sense of how to estimate what you can do and get used to develop a quantified way to make predictions using the shorter feedback of your tasks. It doesn't automatically translate to other domains, but at least you will already have a better framework to make predictions about other things, e.g., you will have a clearer idea what it means to say that "something should happen with a x % chance."
It doesn't takes much effort after you get used to it, and if you are going to keep a to-do list, the predictions add almost no extra burden. Checking the results is mostly automatic (you can experiment with other ways to look at the data, ex. based on how long are the predictions or for a specific project of kind of task), and it gives you good feedback on how to adjust the predictions you will make next. And, it helps you to get a better view of what is possible to do each day and prioritize what is more important. For example, after i automatically predict what i have to do one day, i can review the predictions based on the load i know i can handle and some other past information to have a better estimation of what i expect to accomplish that day.
Additionally, there is no guilt after failing to do everything, because the idea is to push yourself and correct until you can finish the expected number of tasks.
I noticed i could push myself to more thing this way than if i had just a common to-do list to complete and i could just balance how much i need to work and how much i can just procrastinate to finish what i've set. I could also set some goals or have more abstract tasks, e.g. "finish a big project," and then start breaking it into smaller goals/tasks to track how i was progressing and to distribute the load until the deadline, instead of just work in small bursts and eventually try to do too much when the deadline was getting closer.
The only caveat is that you will game your predictions, as focusing on the ones with a higher prediction because you are expected to complete them more often and don't mess with your calibration curve, but soon you will learn to incorporate this kind of information to make your predictions. And, it is also possible to use this to your advantage later, for example, by picking a tasks that repulses you, and keep getting postponed, and assign a higher chance that you you do it, and then just do it because you said you were going to do it.