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comment by albeola · 2012-05-06T20:23:15.301Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Some people might see the descriptions below as sappy or silly, and that's a small loss that I'm happy to take; these songs (and emotions) have really improved my thinking and made me stronger, and if other people can more easily and powerfully achieve the same results by having this tool from the beginning, then I want to do what I can to make this tool available.

I appreciate your thinking here, but I'm worried that this is just going to turn into a thread where people list random songs they like. I mean, if "a cool love song" qualifies...

If emotional responses to songs are substantially personal in nature, it might be more interesting to discuss what mix of emotions most helps motivation, so everyone can solve their own optimization problem. For my brain, I don't think it's straightforwardly the case that making it emotionally appreciate the existence of good and bad things propels it to good actions. (At least on shorter time scales. On longer time scales, it gets really hard to tell what works and what doesn't.)

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comment by FrankAdamek · 2012-05-06T21:37:24.607Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

I appreciate your thinking here, but I'm worried that this is just going to turn into a thread where people list random songs they like. I mean, if "a cool love song" qualifies...

Great point, and a concern. At least for me, these songs are very particular. I have about 5000 songs in my collection, and about 300 made it into this list. Distinguishing this kind of song was something I found time-intensive, and there are many songs I enjoyed but that didn't actually make me motivated to go do things. My hope is that these particular songs are likely to be helpful - I think my past self would have really been helped by having something like this.

If emotional responses to songs are substantially personal in nature, it might be more interesting to discuss what mix of emotions most helps motivation, so everyone can solve their own optimization problem.

That's an excellent point. For me, the emotions can be either good or bad, but the critical thing is that the song is about a good thing I plan to increase or a bad thing I plan to decrease, that I am fully able to make that change, and that the song is not about looking impressive.

One of the main reasons I didn't include many songs is that I don't expect them to have this kind of association for others, though they do for me. And I expect other people to find songs that work for them but not for me. The only thing that really matters is that it works for you.

comment by fubarobfusco · 2012-05-06T22:00:34.801Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Posting this material on LW doesn't seem to be working out.

Please consider relocating it to your own blog.

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comment by FrankAdamek · 2012-05-06T22:44:04.299Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

I have indeed been considering other routes. At the same time, there are some upvotes - a few people seem to be gaining something. If even one or two people can find ways to reach their goals significantly better, I would be happy with that. But even if the ideas bounce off LW completely, I still support some of the things LW does, and I don't want to get in the way of that. I'll see how it goes, but yes this is something I'm considering.

comment by Docile · 2012-05-06T21:19:51.864Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Beautiful song, really indescribable, must be watched

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comment by Dr_Manhattan · 2012-05-06T21:37:12.397Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

thanks angry NSFW troll

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comment by Docile · 2012-05-06T21:41:15.524Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

It's not NSFW unless you consider anime NSFW. Youtube doesn't allow NSFW videos anyway.

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comment by Dr_Manhattan · 2012-05-06T21:49:12.768Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Not Safe for Work. There is plenty of YT videos that are in that category, even if they do technically not have nudity.

comment by [deleted] · 2012-05-06T22:11:56.073Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

I agree this is not safe for work, and should have been marked as such.