Sledding Among Hazards

post by jefftk (jkaufman) · 2024-01-08T03:30:08.463Z · LW · GW · 5 comments

Some sledding hills are very open, with basically no hazards. As long as you start in a reasonable place there's nothing to run into.

Robbins Farm Park, Arlington MA

Other hills are not like this:

Powder House Park, Somerville MA

Since sleds go fast and collisions are bad, choosing only to sled on obstacle-free hills would be reasonable. But if your kids are going to sled on hills with hazards, what precautions make sense? Here's what we did today:

This is in addition to the precautions you need on any hill, like being aware of activity uphill (so you can get out of the way) and walking up on the side (so no one will come down at you).

I am a bit conflicted on when sledding on constricted hills is worth it. For us, the slopes near our house do have obstacles, but:

While I think these are enough to outweigh the risks, with the precautions above, possibly I'm not being cautious enough?

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comment by Viliam · 2024-01-09T13:14:42.190Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

A solution involving much more work might be to put something soft around all the trees. Too much work for one person, but maybe if more adults agreed that this is a good idea...

(I saw a skiing hill for kids that had a lot of artificial soft obstacles. The kids had a motivation to navigate around them, but if they hit one, no big deal. Then again, a soft obstacle is different from a soft wrapper around a hard tree.)

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comment by jefftk (jkaufman) · 2024-01-09T14:02:59.495Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

One of the hills around here is very steep, leading down to a fence. After someone died, hitting the fence pretty hard (not the first time, just the most recent), they started putting hay bales at the bottom every year.

You could do something like that on this hill, but it gets much less sledding traffic and is much less dangerous than the other one, so it's less clear it's worth it.

comment by Seth Herd · 2024-01-09T17:08:17.177Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

No tubes on hills with obstacles. As you mentioned, they don't steer well and often spin to point your head downhill. The seem safer with all that bouncy crash zone. They're not. Plastic sleds are cheap and there's fun to be had from steering them.

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comment by jefftk (jkaufman) · 2024-01-09T20:07:27.890Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

What's the issue with tubes if you always bail if (a) you end up rotated so you can't see or (b) you're on track for an obstacle?

(I don't think the 'bounce' makes them safer; not arguing that.)

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comment by Seth Herd · 2024-01-09T22:15:00.286Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

If you do all of that perfectly, there's no downside.

Kids don't do everything perfectly. So sleds seem way safer.

Except for jumping. Tubes do offer protection from most jumps. Which can cause head impacts.

Source: grew up next to a wooded hill in Northern Michigan where entertainment was scarce.