Assessing Kurzweil's 1999 predictions for 2019

post by Stuart_Armstrong · 2020-04-08T14:27:21.689Z · LW · GW · 9 comments

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Thanks everyone who volunteered! No longer accepting new volunteers now.

Results coming soon.

First of all, I want to thank all the volunteers who agreed to do this assessment. It's important to check the track record, especially in a period when expert predictions are so important and so debated. If you have any questions, add a comment here or PM me on LessWrong.

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comment by orthonormal · 2020-04-09T16:53:30.997Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Boy, lots of the remote learning stuff does suffer from predicting 2019 instead of 2020...

I suggest running inter-rater sanity checks and sometimes asking the rater if their answers should be inverted; I bet that at least one reader will misremember the instructions as "how true on a scale of 1 to 5" instead of your intended "how false on a scale of 1 to 5".

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comment by moses · 2020-04-11T08:16:52.061Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

lots of the remote learning stuff does suffer from predicting 2019 instead of 2020

I wouldn't call it a successful prediction anyway—he predicts this to be the normal state of affairs, whereas the current situation is a temporary reaction to extraordinary circumstances

comment by Stuart_Armstrong · 2020-04-10T14:22:08.163Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Boy, lots of the remote learning stuff does suffer from predicting 2019 instead of 2020...

I know. I hesitated, but decided to go for 2019 because we're unsure what will persist beyond 2020, of the current changes.

comment by Stuart_Armstrong · 2020-04-10T11:41:47.413Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Yep. I'll find questions with near consensus, and check whether some people are systematically inverting those.

comment by moses · 2020-04-09T19:03:52.755Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Wow, I haven't read the book so this was the first time encountering the predictions. They were… surprisingly bad, given it's just 20 years. Even adjusting for the fact that predictions tend to be ridiculous in general, this really exceeded all expectations

comment by Jsevillamol · 2020-04-10T14:48:48.735Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

I do not understand prediction 86.

In other words, the difference between those "productively" engaged and those who are not is not always clear.

As context, prediction 84 says

While there is sufficient prosperity to provide basic necessities (secure housing and food,
among others) without significant strain to the economy, old controversies persist
regarding issues of responsibility and opportunity.

And prediction 85 says

The issue is complicated by the
growing component of most employment's being concerned with the employee's own
learning and skill acquisition.

What is Kurzweil talking about? Is this about whether we can tell when employees are doing useful work and when they are shirking?

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comment by Stuart_Armstrong · 2020-04-13T08:15:38.937Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Is this about whether we can tell when employees are doing useful work and when they are shirking?

That's how I'd read it.

comment by Jsevillamol · 2020-04-10T14:38:49.002Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Sorry for being dense, but how should we fill it?

By default I am going to add a third column with the prediction, is that how you want to receive the data?

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comment by Stuart_Armstrong · 2020-04-13T08:15:58.205Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Yes, that's it ^_^ Sorry if it wasn't clear; will reword.