If you are signed up for cryonics with life insurance, how much life insurance did you get and over what term?

post by Eli Tyre (elityre) · 2020-07-22T08:13:38.931Z · LW · GW · 1 comment

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Hey all,

I'm been cryo-crastinating, but I'm trying to push through and actually get signed up in the next two months.

A next step is that I need to buy life insurance. I'm a little bit at a loss, because I'm not sure how much I should get. It seems like I want some margin of error above the minimum amount required by the cryonics org that I'm signing up with, but I'm not sure how much is a reasonable margin of error.

If you have life insurance for cryonics, how much did you get, and why? What is the term of your policy, and why did you select that length of time?

Also, for those of you who paid / are planning to pay out of pocket, why did you opt to do that instead?

Thanks!

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answer by lincolnquirk · 2020-07-22T12:22:56.441Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

$100k and $250k are standardized life insurance amounts which over-fund CI by a lot. I can get a $100k 10-year term life at $11/mo and a $250k one for $15/mo. I currently get $100k life insurance through my company so I just did that. Smaller than $100k doesn’t seem worth thinking about.

I do expect to pay out of pocket once I have saved enough money for the cost not to matter, because I want to stop dealing with the logistics of proof of insurance.

answer by PeterMcCluskey · 2020-07-22T18:45:13.315Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

I got a $50k whole life policy about 24 years ago, to fund an Alcor neuropreservation. Alcor's prices have gone up since then, but they handle that via charging me an extra yearly fee.

answer by Gordon Seidoh Worley (G Gordon Worley III) · 2020-07-22T19:15:49.505Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

I have $150k in what is termed a universal life insurance plan but it actually looks more like whole life when I look at the terms. I use this to fund neuropreservation with Alcor. For what it's worth, this is 2 times the amount Alcor was charging for neuropreservation at the time I purchased it.

I chose a whole/universal plan since it covers me until death (or technically until I turn 120, at which point it will pay out regardless as I understand it) and I purchased it when I was near the age with the lowest premiums. I think using term life insurance is cheaper but riskier, since you might outlive the term and be too old to purchase additional life insurance at a reasonable rate when you need it, effectively canceling your ability to pay for cryonics unless you have in the intervening time managed to do financially well enough to self-fund.

I didn't self-fund because I couldn't at the time, and even though I expect to later be able to, life insurance offers some legal protections that makes it a nice funding vehicle (I can go bankrupt without risk of losing my life insurance or having it pay out to my creditors rather than the designated beneficiary). Even if you can self fund, unless you pay in advance, you'll want to make sure you use a mechanism that protects the funds and makes sure they go to their intended use.

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comment by mingyuan · 2020-11-07T05:15:19.146Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Publicly shaming Eli for not having signed up yet.

Also noting that I am still pretty confused about the answer to this question, but hopefully working with one of Alcor's recommended insurance agents will clear things up.