We Don't Just Let People Die—So What Next?

post by James Stephen Brown (james-brown) · 2024-08-03T01:04:49.756Z · LW · GW · 8 comments

Contents

  Capitalism & Evolution
    The Red Queen
    Pros & Cons of Competition
    Externalities
    Just Evolve
  Can We Just Let People Die?
    Restoring Balance With A Vengeance
    Keeping Everyone Alive
    The Peasants Are Revolting
  The Situation At Present
    But Capitalism Gave Us All The Stuff
    Your Intuitions Might Be Correct
  Solutions
    The Costs Of The Cheapest Option
    An Optimal Plan
    An Un-Sexy Solution
    But What About The Rich?
  So…
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The following is a speculative (workshopping) piece about what the implications are for a society that has concluded that we don’t just let people die unnecessarily from starvation due to poverty (a society like our own). I am not an economist or policy expert, so my conclusions are dependent on my understanding of the issues at the moment and may well change if someone can enlighten me about areas where I’m lacking in expertise. The TL;DR—If we don’t let the poor die, but we leave them in poverty, we are creating a suboptimal level of existence, not conducive to producing contributors to society—and instead creating a parasitic relationship at great cost.

Capitalism & Evolution

According to Adam Smith, a society should operate in such a way so as to provide…

“…not only the commodities which are indispensably necessary for the support of life, but whatever the custom of the country renders it indecent for creditable people… to be without.” - Adam Smith

It was unacceptable to Smith, not only to allow people to perish, but in fact to deny them what they need to live with dignity. But on that second point, there have been differing levels of concern about the least fortunate.

“The incentives created by economic inequality, with rewards for education, hard work, and risk-taking, are essential for creating a dynamic, innovative economy." -Gary Becker (Nobel Prize Winning Economist)

Some will reference an evolutionary mode—survival of the fittest—to justify an unsympathetic attitude to those unable to support themselves.

“While the law [of competition] may be sometimes hard for the individual, it is best for the race, because it ensures the survival of the fittest in every department." -Andrew Carnegie

I intend to make an argument that, in a world where we don’t just let people die—even if someone doesn’t believe dignity is a right—it is optimal to have people afforded a greater-than-subsistence level of existence.

Before going further, I’d like to present a concept from nature that can help us understand the issue better.

The Red Queen

In 'Alice in Wonderland', the Red Queen is riding her horse through a forest, but as she rides, the trees and all the creatures of the forest are moving in the same direction at the same speed, so she appears to stand still. This concept, Matt Ridley refers to as The Red Queen, is something that is evident in evolutionary arms races.

There are some arms races in nature where competition between two species creates a selection pressure that builds incredible strength in both parties. The rough-skinned newt is one of the most toxic animals on the planet and produces enough toxin to kill several humans, yet the common garter snake eats them with little difficulty.

That’s because these two species have evolved alongside each other.

As the newt evolves a more and more powerful poison, the snake develops a greater and greater tolerance. It is only once we step outside the forest that we notice all the characters are moving. In the same way, it is only when a human touches the newt’s skin that the product of what appears a zero-sum game between the newt and the snake finds its non-zero-sum product, in the form of one of the strongest poisons on earth - resulting in the swift death of the human being.

Pros & Cons of Competition

Competition can and does produce in us strengths that might have remained dormant were we never to compete. Competition in our markets also drives down prices, forces efficiencies, and can, given the right parameters, drive innovation.

But competition can also create poison.

Competition in the form of free-market capitalism also contains a number of self-balancing subsystems that appear to magically do the work of Adam Smith’s Invisible Hand. It has appeared, counter-intuitively, to succeed in stimulating the modernisation and well-being of populations around the world, so much so that some would like to see its influence expanded.

Externalities

However, while many of free-market capitalism’s subsystems self-balance, on the whole, we can observe that this is not an absolute rule of equilibrium—the poison of inequality is growing, and is getting out of control. Because income inequality is an externality to the standard measure of economic prosperity (GDP), other externalities such as social well-being and the environment suffer enormous consequences. This sort of externality is hilariously lampooned by Clarke and Dawe’s—The Front Fell Off episode where Clarke tries to convince Dawe that everything is fine because a leaking oil tanker has been towed “outside of the environment.”

To continue the poisonous newt metaphor, where the unfortunate human (the externality) comes into contact with the poison of the newt, the economic poison of income inequality is coming into conflict with the external world in the form of the fracturing of society.

Just Evolve

And yet there is another problem, we no longer live in a world of the survival of the fittest. In the wild, the unfortunate externalities would die and the gene pool would adapt. People in poverty would die of starvation, and the system would balance once again. But we no longer tolerate people dying, it’s not acceptable for someone to die when it is possible to save them. Before we move on, it’s important to ask why this is, and ask it seriously.

Can We Just Let People Die?

Recently, some of the callousness toward the elderly and vulnerable we’ve witnessed during the Covid-19 pandemic has actually shaken my faith that the answer for almost all people to this question is “No.”

When it has come to the health of the economy, it seems even normally liberal and ostensibly caring people have been happy to throw the most vulnerable people under the bus. So, when it comes to the question of allowing people do die (from starvation due to poverty)—I have to say, for those whose answer is “Yes”, I’m unable to reach them, and they may as well stop reading here.

I think it’s important to recognise that the politics, economics, and work that we take part in, are all instrumental activities in service of the ultimate goal of well-being—and people needlessly dying doesn’t help that ultimate goal for those that die or those that are left behind. If your answer to the question “can we just let people die” (from starvation due to poverty) is “No,” keep reading, because a lot follows from that answer.

Restoring Balance With A Vengeance

If we take it as given that we do not let people die needlessly, then we are living in a very different state from that of our evolutionary past. And while we’re here, the pace of change in technology also makes evolutionary forces impotent to help us adapt anyway. So, while competitive systems usually self-balance through atrophy (death of individuals), ours will not, so it is important to note that that avenue for self-balancing needs to be replaced with something else otherwise it will come back, with a vengeance. When human systems in the past have got out of balance, the way they have often got back in balance is through war—mass death. In the wider frame, when the balance of the environment gets out of balance, its reaction is often extreme and irreversible—extinction—death with a vengeance.

So the way I see it is we have a question with two parts.

1. What is the most cost-effective way of keeping everyone alive?
2. What mechanism do we use to maintain balance, in society, and the environment?

Keeping Everyone Alive

It might seem as though just providing a subsistence survival budget for those who are near death would be cheapest, and would allow the magic of the market to continue creating the wealth, however unevenly distributed.

The Peasants Are Revolting

This approach is, however, negated by the threat of revolt. With continued inequality, a base of desperate people has in the past eventually led to terrorism and revolution. So, is there a satisfactory point where the safety net is just enough to curb revolt? Not if the gap between rich and poor is widening—you will eventually only have rich and poor and the poor will outnumber the rich by an order of magnitude. So is it all hopeless, are we destined for war and revolt?

The Situation At Present

There’s one option, which is what we have at present, which introduces some vital externalities to the equation. We have some avenues where the very rich can protect their wealth in three ways.

1. Employing people to protect their wealth in the form of lawyers, accountants, real estate brokers, and advertisers, and we see this—the proliferation of jobs where at the end of the chain they are working to protect the capital of the very wealthy at a fraction of the cost of the capital being protected. Perversely this is a form of wealth distribution, but it is one completely controlled by the wealthiest, they can essentially twist the taps to the minimum required to keep their reservoir full.
2. Secondly, they can lobby the government for lower taxes and special rights to monopolise the market.
3. And finally and most importantly, they can run media companies that build a narrative that convinces those at the bottom to believe that the rich, and the politicians they control, are acting in their best interests, and following a responsible and watertight economic philosophy. This also enables them to direct any aggression among the poor againsteach other. So, even in a democracy, it is possible to have almost half the population vote against their own best interests to the benefit of 1% of the population.

So, that’s the situation we see play out. People being trapped in poverty, being convinced of untruths in the media, and voting against their own best interests. And yet, the costs of this charade are enormous, all of this money being spent on distributing misinformation, on political manipulation, on bullshit jobs designed to protect the wealth of the rich—is all meaningless and unproductive, at the end of the day it is a massive negative-sum game, with the gains going to very few people who get diminishing benefits to their well-being from the additional billions on top of the billions they already have.

But Capitalism Gave Us All The Stuff

The narrative (3) feeds back onto itself, fuelling the notion of capitalism’s seemingly magical qualities, and overplaying its hand at every opportunity—claiming that because supply and demand naturally balances, then everything in the market will balance perfectly. Part of this narrative is that the free market creates wealth and commerce, and therefore every life-improving technology is somehow a product of the market—when that is simply not true, actually you have the government to thank for your smart phone and much else (generally the US government, through NASA and the CIA); microchips, touch screens, the accelerometer, voice recognition, the internet…! In fact, one could argue that given that the market benefits from capitalising on any incremental improvement in a given technology, it is actually a market prerogative to slow the growth of technology to that end. Why release a phone with 5 new features when you can just R&D one and put it in a new case?

Your Intuitions Might Be Correct

So, we can be a little skeptical about how much the market has given us despite its self-serving ideology. The idea that competition is good is counter-intuitive for a good reason—our intuitions tell us that competitions always come at a cost, which is why we generally avoid conflict most of the time, and cooperate when we can. The costs of the competition of the market are almost invisible, but we have been seeing them over decades get more and more obvious.

Solutions

But is there a workable solution that avoids revolution, terrorism, and war, that doesn’t also require so much wasted time and resources to maintain through some meaningless charade?

Yes. But before we get to it, it is important to look at some of the other hidden costs of doing the bare minimum.

The Costs Of The Cheapest Option

It is a fact that living in poverty lowers opportunity, motivation and even intelligence. So, given this, by doing the bare minimum, we are actually taking human potential out of the system, and turning potentially productive members into a drain on the economy. So, you end up with freeloaders at the top, avoiding tax and hoarding capital and freeloaders at the bottom becoming a drain on the economy, health services, the legal system, and prisons. Keeping this section of the population in this situation is extremely expensive.

I just want to take a quick pause here to acknowledge that people contribute in many diverse ways to a culturally rich society and I do not mean to suggest that I believe people without the means to contribute to the economy are not valuable members of society. I am making the case in hard terms in order to be convincing to those who might have a more hard-line view of the economic value of citizens.

An Optimal Plan

We’ve already decided that we can’t let people die, and we are yet to find an optimal base level for a person, where the costs of supporting them harnesses their potential to contribute back to society. So instead of just keeping them alive, or going further, keeping them satisfied enough not to revolt, we actually need to find a point where we are making the most out of the potential of each human, so that they are at optimal motivation, intelligence, and therefore productivity.

We are then left with two problems:

1. How to pay for it?
2. How to stop inequality growing - leading to either revolt or the perpetuation of a farcical wealth protection economy which benefits the rich at the expense of all else, including the environment.

First of all, it’s important to put this expense into perspective—because it seems large. Bear in mind that there are already massive costs to do with poverty which will be saved by lifting people out of poverty, and increasing their motivation, intelligence, and productivity, and that doing this will actually go some way to addressing inequality.

An Un-Sexy Solution

The rest of the way is simple, taxes, taxes, taxes. Boring I know, but with new, better-structured taxes it will be possible to erode wealth at the very top—bearing in mind that wealth is more difficult to hide than income a wealth tax would be very effective as well as a corporate tax that is charged in the countries in which products are sold rather than in whatever tax haven the multi-national prefers. This would not only pay for a UBI that lifts everyone to a point where they can actually make decisions about their future from a position of security—but would curb wealth inequality. And because actual social mobility will be possible, the wealthy won’t need to convince the poor not to revolt.

1. Capital Tax: Currently, the very wealthy use their money to generate more wealth without the need for productivity. They are incentivised to divest from funding new businesses and innovation in favour of safer investments. Static assets, such as real estate, are unproductive and have a high return for investors. Thomas Piketty suggests that taxing capital will reduce wealth inequality but also incentivise investment back into the working economy (to avoid it being eroded away by the capital tax).
2. Country of Sale Based Corporate Tax: Currently, companies pay tax where their “offices” are based, which leads multi-national companies to avoid tax using tax havens. If tax were paid in the country where products were bought rather than where they were made, this sort of tax avoidance would be impossible (of course this would probably mean a massive upheaval of the tax system, which would be… difficult).
3. Universal Basic Income: Currently, means testing for benefits leads to poverty traps that incentivise people to stay on welfare (in order not to lose benefits). It reduces entrepreneurial risk-taking for all except the wealthiest of trust-fund kids. A UBI streamlines the position of “not letting people die,” eliminates poverty traps, and reduces stigma (because it is afforded to everyone). It also incentivises the creation of quality jobs by reducing the demand for jobs, giving workers more choice to do something meaningful with their lives. A UBI would also eliminate the necessity for a minimum wage, meaning that non-profit or low-profit businesses can provide lower-paid but meaningful work for people based on values they hold dear, rather than purely for the value of a pay cheque.

But What About The Rich?

As for the rich, they will still be rich. But they will be incentivised to move their wealth out of static assets that have historically just accrued value without producing anything, into the innovation economy, spurring on young entrepreneurs to come up with new solutions to the problems we face. The rich might also benefit by not being involved in an arms race, which (on top of creating various “poisons” in the form of externalities) is stressful—and what’s the point of being rich if it makes you stressed?

So…

We (thankfully) don’t just let people die. This means that we can’t rely on evolutionary or market forces to self-balance. Thankfully we have another mechanism, called democracy, where we can vote for policies that redistribute wealth optimally, and keep the system in balance. This is not only good for economic productivity, but it also serves the well-being of the humans involved. And it’s good to remember, that’s the whole point of having a productive and sustainable economy. A thriving economy is merely an instrumental goal in aid of the primary goal of human well-being.

I’ll reiterate that these are highly speculative ideas, meant to encourage thought and discussion. I am not an economist or policy expert, and the solutions I’ve offered may be unworkable for many reasons—they should be read through the lens of “in an ideal world”. I would love to hear your own ideas. I intend to write a more refined version of this at nonzerosum.games informed by your feedback.

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