Is School of Thought related to the Rationality Community?

post by Shoshannah Tekofsky (DarkSym) · 2024-10-15T12:41:33.224Z · LW · GW · 2 comments

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If so, who are they?

Link: https://yourbias.is/

At a gloss the material looks really polished and topical.

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answer by Viliam · 2024-10-15T13:27:31.894Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Never heard about them.

(Well, it's not like the Less Wrong community has a monopoly on talking about biases. Topics like rationality, critical thinking, intelligence, logic, etc. were popular long before LW existed.)

If you scroll down on their company page, you can find names:

Jesse Richardson - an internationally award-winning creative director and founded the School of Thought in order to popularize critical thinking by combining design with philosophy. 

David Lenowitz - after studying at Wharton and working as a Chief Information Officer at Susquehanna International Group, Dave was the founding Executive Director of the Alliance for Decision Education, and has over 30 years experience inthe technology and research sector.

David McRaney- a science journalist, author of several best-selling books including ‘How Minds Change’, and is the host of the popular blog and podcast at youarenotsosmart.com which explores the many ways in which we suffer cognitive biases.

Barry Silverberg - has over 45 years of nonprofit professional and volunteer leadership, management, resource development, and communications experience focusing on nonprofit governance, strategic thinking, board engagement, professional and organizational development, and public policy awareness and advocacy.

...at least, that's what they say about themselves.

I am impressed by their marketing skills, but I doubt the usefulness of the material.

For example, clicking on "the dunning-kruger effect" tells me that experts are often under-confident and idiots are often over-confident. That's true, but... not really useful.

It feels like the only purpose of that section is to make me buy their book on Amazon, and to conveniently share the link on social networks (perhaps when I want to accuse my opponents of being over-confident idiots). It's hard to say whether stuff like this actually helps or hurts people.

(From my perspective, an important part that is missing in that very short description, is that when experts become familiar with the opinions of everyone else including the idiots, their self-confidence usually increases. But when idiots become familiar with the opinions of everyone else including the experts, their self-confidence remains the same.)

comment by Shoshannah Tekofsky (DarkSym) · 2024-10-15T14:18:16.602Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

I didn't look deeply in to the material, but good branding gives people a good feeling about a thing, and I think rationality could use some better branding. In my experience a lot of people bounce off a lot of the material cause they have negative associations with it or it's not packaged in a way that appeals. I think even if (I didn't check) the material is too superficial to be useful as content, it's still useful to increase people's affinity / positive association with rationality.

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comment by Viliam · 2024-10-15T15:19:10.511Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

That's a complicated topic -- how useful are positive associations of "rationality" (the word) if they do not come with the right content?

On one hand, it seems like not really; we are promoting the word, but not the thing that the word represents. We might even be teaching people to associate the word with a wrong thing.

On the other hand, it's not like negative associations would be better, so...

I don't know.

(Someone should review that Amazon book, but I am not going to buy it.)

comment by Shoshannah Tekofsky (DarkSym) · 2024-10-15T14:18:41.046Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Oh and also, thank you for checking and sharing your thoughts! :)

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comment by Screwtape · 2024-10-15T17:37:33.858Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

I have heard of them. The first time was when someone at LessWrong Community Weekend used their cards as part of an exercise [? · GW], the second time when they came up on Clearer Thinking.

School of Thought is at least adjacent via Clearer Thinking. I think your question is a little under-defined. Are you asking if the people running it identify as rationalists? 

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comment by Shoshannah Tekofsky (DarkSym) · 2024-10-15T19:45:30.146Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Oh cool!

I was asking for any connection of any type. The overlap just seemed so great that I’d expect there to be a connection of some sort. The Clearer Thinking link makes sense and is an example, thank you!