Lost in the sauce
post by JungleTact1cs · 2023-03-02T16:58:20.266Z · LW · GW · No commentsThis is a question post.
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Does anyone have good tactics for not believing in your own bullshit and consequentially getting lost in the sauce?
Edit: To clarify (this isn't a post about keeping your worldview clear from other sources, this is a post asking for tactics about keeping your worldview clear from getting lost in your own bullshit. For example: you lie (and believe it) 6 times a day to a co-worker, about something. What tactics can be used to keep yourself from getting lost in that lie over time (lost in your own bullshit)?
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My core practice is remembering many times I was wrong. My experience was that this is not natural, which is a realization I backed into when trying to identify when I learned certain things. Without dedicated attention, I found that when I finally understood something well enough to internalize it, my memory of ever having not known it faded away.
So now when I am wrong and need to update, I pay special attention to the fact of my wrongness, and I try to fill it with more detail like the why and how of my wrongness, so I can recover this information later. This helps to keep my internal beliefs from feeling like obvious truths.
As a bonus, it makes me a much more effective communicator. It is very hard to inform people about things when you have no concept of never having been informed. The empathy gained alone is worth the effort, in my opinion.
↑ comment by JungleTact1cs · 2023-03-03T07:57:48.510Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
I've edited the post, because people don't seem to understand it correctly.
It likely wasn't explained adequately by me, I hope this helps and it is now.
I just stopped lying. In my experience, imagination is part of what gives rise to speech, and imagination can be mistaken for memory. After some time, my imagination provided thoughts that aligned with what I knew to be true, and my memory became clearer. Lying is a hard habit to break, but I think it's worth it.
↑ comment by JungleTact1cs · 2023-03-03T10:05:01.255Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
Well, just for a start. You realize that if you tell the truth 100% of the time, that would make you completely untrustworthy, right?
Replies from: CalebThiem↑ comment by CalebThiem · 2023-03-03T15:37:03.025Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
Nope, I'm lost😂 Please explain, I'm curious why that would be.
Replies from: JungleTact1cs↑ comment by JungleTact1cs · 2023-03-03T15:50:30.653Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
A 100% truth-teller is like a clear mirror, any information in their possession can be easily accessed by friends and enemies alike. Making them completely untrustworthy to anyone that wouldn't like all the information they share to become 100% public knowledge.
Play manifold markets, try and bet on questions that matter and see if you can make money. I can only do so with quite a lot of research, so I should be much more wary of where my views differ without significant research.
↑ comment by JungleTact1cs · 2023-03-03T07:58:15.080Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
I've edited the post, because people don't seem to understand it correctly.
It likely wasn't explained adequately by me, I hope this helps and it is now.
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