Today a Tragedy

post by elriggs · 2018-06-13T01:58:05.056Z · score: 51 (22 votes) · LW · GW · 12 comments

Very early this morning, my friend died in a car wreck.

When my mother called to tell me, she told me an old friend had died, but then it took her 10 seconds to compose herself to tell me exactly who.

Old friends have called and texted me throughout the day. Some seeking to console, and others to be consoled.

But it's all a tragedy.

My friends shouldn't need consolation, my mother shouldn't need to compose herself, and my friend shouldn't have died today.

A resolve arose within me:

I will solve AI alignment, and then I will work to further AGI, bringing that day closer and closer to prevent the loss of another grandson, another nephew, another friend.

But when I tried to work today, all I could do was mourn.


Will,

I'm glad I got to see you one last time in January. I'm sorry I forgot to wish you a happy birthday this year, but I've saved two dates in my calendar for you now, so I will never forget. Thanks for being my debate partner, and thanks for being my friend.

Love you. Miss you.

Logan

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comment by Mitchell_Porter · 2018-06-13T11:34:51.606Z · score: 26 (8 votes) · LW · GW

A long time ago, something similar happened to me. I was an immortalist, I was living the struggle, I got the call that someone had died. I remember thinking, OK, now I have to bring back the dead as well.

Good luck preserving your intentions and your functionality. Hopefully there are people around you in real life who at least half understand and half sympathize with your response to the situation.

Actions can have unexpected consequences. When you started your 80-day sprint, I started my own. Good luck between now and the end of July.

comment by elriggs · 2018-06-17T03:13:11.287Z · score: 5 (2 votes) · LW · GW

I very much appreciate your comment Mitchell. Your's and Vanessa's comment had both stated a possible option that I hadn't considered before: bringing back those we've lost. It's a low probability in my mind, but it's at least in my hypothesis space now, so thanks.

The funeral was yesterday and I finally did get to be around people who were also mourning for him. It honestly really did help.

I'm also greatly encouraged and look forward to hearing how your own sprint went. Best of luck until then as well.

comment by Vanessa Kosoy (vanessa-kosoy) · 2018-06-13T09:01:58.266Z · score: 21 (7 votes) · LW · GW

Logan, I am so sorry for your loss.

We will never accept death.

We will not give up even on those who seem to be already gone, until it's a certainty they can't be brought back.

Whatever happens, we won't forget them.

We will inscribe every name on our hearts.

We will win, or die trying.

comment by elriggs · 2018-06-17T03:23:03.879Z · score: 6 (3 votes) · LW · GW

Thanks Vanessa

We will not give up even on those who seem to be already gone, until it's a certainty they can't be brought back.

I had never even considered this as a possibility beyond cryogenics, but I've mulled over yours and Mitchell's comments for a few days now, and that hypothesis is on my radar now, so thank you. Your quote above captures how I want to respond in light of that.

comment by elriggs · 2019-04-12T02:47:05.683Z · score: 19 (5 votes) · LW · GW

Remember in high school when you wanted to rent a bounce house for your birthday? I went around to everyone trying to raise money for the cause, but I could only get $20 (all from myself, haha).

$20 isn't enough to rent a bounce house, but you found some employees testing bounce houses, paid them $20 to bounce on one for 20 minutes and left like a king.

I know, I know, I'm a day late, but still,

happy birthday man

comment by Raemon · 2018-06-13T04:52:56.175Z · score: 14 (5 votes) · LW · GW

I'm sorry for your loss. :(

comment by elriggs · 2018-06-17T03:23:37.615Z · score: 3 (1 votes) · LW · GW

Thank you Raemon

comment by elriggs · 2019-06-12T19:12:02.893Z · score: 9 (2 votes) · LW · GW

Hey Will,

Today's the day. I was at work when I got the call, and I literally just went into the bathroom, sat on the shower step, and tried to process losing you.

You took care of a lot of your friends when they were being idiots. Do you remember when I had my wisdom teeth pulled, took a whole hydrocodone, and then we went to the speech and debate banquet? I was loopy, could barely stay awake, and I told that one girl "I'm not hitting on you or anything, but you're very beautiful".

You had to carry me out to my mom's car, haha

I hope one day you'll be able to read all these. I just want to give you a giant hug and tell you how stupid you were and then give you another hug.

Love,

Logan

comment by avturchin · 2018-06-18T12:07:59.728Z · score: 5 (2 votes) · LW · GW

I hope that future AI will be able to resurrect the dead, and there are many ways how it could do it.

comment by totallybogus · 2018-06-13T16:50:50.770Z · score: 5 (2 votes) · LW · GW

A resolve arose within me:

I will solve AI alignment, and then I will work to further AGI, bringing that day closer and closer to prevent the loss of another grandson, another nephew, another friend.

Good decision. Also, even if we can't quite solve AI alignment in the fully general case, we're likely close to having AIs which are safe enough in practice to successfully prevent almost all car wrecks.

comment by Jerry Rhodes (jerry-rhodes) · 2018-06-15T08:21:35.296Z · score: 2 (2 votes) · LW · GW

Logan, I am so sorry for your loss...

comment by elriggs · 2018-06-17T03:24:02.815Z · score: 3 (1 votes) · LW · GW

Thank you Jerry, I appreciate it