I am the very model of a self-recursive modeler

post by Jacob Falkovich (Jacobian) · 2018-09-06T21:45:41.646Z · LW · GW · 9 comments

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I am the very model of a self-recursive modeler

My consciousness encompasses itself in many meta layers

To Russel’s paradox, I have the set of all the answers

I cut the hair of all the non-self-barbering hairdressers

I think about me thinking of my thoughts with regularity

In my Cartesian theater, I see myself with clarity

I tell you that I lie without the slightest contradiction

The story of my life is told in meta-metafiction

My inner simulator replicates the total universe

I simulate myself as I am writing out this line of verse

My secrets are unknown to me, I keep them confidential

Referring to myself I’d say I’m quite self-referential

My strange loop’s Escherer than yours, it’s Bacher and it’s Godeler

I am the very model of a self-recursive modeler


Cross-posted in full from Putanumonit

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comment by Jacob Falkovich (Jacobian) · 2018-09-07T16:13:56.007Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Yes, it's a bit half baked - a missing syllable here and there, no chorus, not enough lines. If anyone wants to expand this into a fully baked poem, I will be delighted.

comment by gjm · 2018-09-07T12:19:03.861Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

It's a nice idea, but I have to say a lot of it seems like it doesn't really work metrically. E.g., "To Russell’s paradox, I have the set of all the answers" has only 15 syllables but it needs to have 16. (Several of the lines can be made to work if you pronounce "-tion" or "-tial" with two syllables like an old-fashioned Anglican church choir; maybe that's deliberate?)

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comment by Jacob Falkovich (Jacobian) · 2018-09-07T16:11:23.926Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

There were too many line pairs that could either have 15 syllables or be utterly mangled. I decided to compromise by alternating 16-syllable pairs with 15-syllable pairs and pretending it's on purpose. There's a reason I don't advertise Putanumonit as a poetry blog :)

comment by Raemon · 2018-09-06T22:34:29.997Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

This is great although my brain is hiccuping on the lack of the little chorus tagline-y thing.

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comment by Ben Pace (Benito) · 2018-09-06T22:41:54.189Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

I am the very model of a self-recursive modeler.

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comment by gjm · 2018-09-07T12:06:47.419Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

He is the very model of a self-recursive modeler!

comment by Derbu Xehiu · 2018-09-07T11:14:29.197Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Ah, GEB an Eternal Golden Braid is clearly undervalued. Too bad I never read it through to the very end. I'm more like a sampler, leaving books unread as soon as I feel I have absorbed the core message. It doesn't help that with an IQ of 134 I sometimes feel as dumb as a horse when browsing LW.

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comment by Dr_Manhattan · 2018-09-07T16:55:29.673Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
It doesn't help that with an IQ of 134 I sometimes feel as dumb as a horse when browsing LW.

We should start a club :). Something like a Jerry daycare.

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comment by Shmi (shminux) · 2018-09-08T05:31:47.905Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Club 134.