Strong Cheap Signals

post by trevor (TrevorWiesinger) · 2023-03-29T14:18:52.734Z · LW · GW · 3 comments

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  A basic tenet of game theory is that strong favorable signals must be costly. Why? Because if strong favorable signals weren’t costly, everyone would send them. And if everyone sends strong signals, they cease to be strong. 
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By Bryan Caplan, Economics professor at George Mason University, posted on his blog Bet on It on March 16th 2022. This is the original source of the legendary quote.

A basic tenet of game theory is that strong favorable signals must be costly. Why? Because if strong favorable signals weren’t costly, everyone would send them. And if everyone sends strong signals, they cease to be strong. 

 

Recently, however, I realized that this tenet isn’t as airtight as I thought.

The problem, in a nutshell, is that most people are impulsive. As a result, they’re prone to casually send bad signals – and even more prone to casually fail to send good signals.

Example: Having friends is extremely helpful in life. As I often chant, “Friendship rules the world.” To make new friends, however, you want to signal your friendliness. The obvious strategic implication: Everyone should aggressively signal their friendliness to potentially useful people with warm smiles, amiable greetings, and kind hospitality.

Since friends are scarce and wonderful, you’d expect this signaling race to be intense. But a half century of experience tells me otherwise. Most people are rather standoffish – especially young people, who have the greatest need to make friends! Even if you’re obviously useful for them, people rarely strive to win you over. Indeed, most don’t even bother to give a smile and an audible greeting.

Would friendliness actually be a good use of people’s time? Almost certainly. Research says that people get half of all jobs through personal connections. And you’re highly unlikely to do a favor for a person who doesn’t even know your name.

How can this situation persist? Because most human beings are both shy and prideful. They fear rejection. And they don’t like to do anything that resembles “sucking up.” The wise consciously bring these impulses under control – and soon start to make friends and influence people. Fortunately for everyone else, the wise are few in number. As a result, plenty of opportunities for the shy and prideful remain. But they would do far better if they just got their impulses under control.

At this point, you could fairly ask, “Wait! Does this mean that seemingly friendly people are actually just people with high impulse control?” No. While most human beings are shy and prideful, a notable minority are sincerely friendly. The pool of people we perceive as friendly actually contains both sincerely friendly people and not-so-friendly people with high impulse control. As the impulsivity of the population rises, the share of apparently friendly people who are sincerely friendly goes up. But so do the social rewards for not-so-friendly people with the impulse control to smile and give a good, “Hello!”

Tautologically, you could object, “Standard signaling models are still correct. We just have to accept that the subjective cost of impulse control is astronomical for most people.” But that still leaves us with a dramatically different picture of the world. In a world where most people refuse to control their counter-productive impulses, there are piles of $20 bills lying on the sidewalk for the minority with productive impulses – as well as the minority who choose to master their emotions.

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comment by Dagon · 2023-03-30T09:09:11.061Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

I think there's a missing element from the description of "strong favorable signals must be costly".  In fact, they must be costly TO FAKE.  They can be cheap when honest.  

I think you have to accept the truth of your observations (it's not tautological if it requires evidence to support, and you happen to have that evidence).  A whole lot of humans have difficulty with impulse control, and with subverting their natural reactions and desires in order to appear friendlier and more vulnerable than their inside view of themselves supports.

comment by Sam FM · 2023-03-29T23:26:10.861Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

This post doesn't convince me away from the "tautological" objection mentioned at the end.

Caplan is presenting a contrarian position: "Standard signaling models are incorrect. The true cost of making friends is astronomically lower than what most people think it is." It's an intriguing take, but what are those actual and perceived costs?

To me, it's borderline ridiculous to simplify the costs down to "impulse control." Making friends is often difficult, complicated, and at times genuinely risky. It takes so much more effort and commitment than simply saying hello with a smile. Even for the "sincerely friendly" people who have good social intuitions, there's clearly an opportunity cost to having friends.

I'd be interested in an analysis of the perceived vs actual costs of friendship, but I don't see any of that explored in detail here. Even the core claim that "people are impulsive" doesn't seem particularly well supported.
 

comment by [deleted] · 2023-03-29T17:19:39.548Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Note that in the current world, the value of certain skills has grown so large that having friends is not cheap. Your time has become worth north of $100 an hour, if you are in the USA and if you can get into a tech job etc. Sometimes a LOT more than that. Every hour you waste on a friend is an hour you could be studying, tinkering on a personal project, or working.

Ironically just spending money on signaling becomes cheap. That leased Tesla or bmw costs you barely anything per month in terms of hours invested. Your fancy watch is the same story. Hence why you see so many bay area bros all looking the same.