New voluntary commitments (AI Seoul Summit)
post by Zach Stein-Perlman · 2024-05-21T11:00:41.794Z · LW · GW · 17 commentsThis is a link post for https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/frontier-ai-safety-commitments-ai-seoul-summit-2024/frontier-ai-safety-commitments-ai-seoul-summit-2024
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Basically the companies commit to make responsible scaling policies.
Part of me says this is amazing, the best possible commitment short of all committing to a specific RSP. It's certainly more real than almost all other possible kinds of commitments. But as far as I can tell, people pay almost no attention to what RSP-ish documents (Anthropic, OpenAI, Google) actually say and whether the companies are following them.[1] The discourse is more like "Anthropic, OpenAI, and Google have safety plans and other companies don't." Hopefully that will change.
Maybe "These commitments represent a crucial and historic step forward for international AI governance." It does seem nice from an international-governance perspective that Mistral AI, TII (the Falcon people), and a Chinese company joined.
The UK and Republic of Korea governments announced that the following organisations have agreed to the Frontier AI Safety Commitments:
- Amazon
- Anthropic
- Cohere
- G42
- IBM
- Inflection AI
- Meta
- Microsoft
- Mistral AI
- Naver
- OpenAI
- Samsung Electronics
- Technology Innovation Institute
- xAI
- Zhipu.ai
The above organisations, in furtherance of safe and trustworthy AI, undertake to develop and deploy their frontier AI models and systems[2] responsibly, in accordance with the following voluntary commitments, and to demonstrate how they have achieved this by publishing a safety framework focused on severe risks by the upcoming AI Summit in France.
Given the evolving state of the science in this area, the undersigned organisations’ approaches (as detailed in paragraphs I-VIII) to meeting Outcomes 1, 2 and 3 may evolve in the future. In such instances, organisations will provide transparency on this, including their reasons, through public updates.
The above organisations also affirm their commitment to implement current best practices related to frontier AI safety, including: internal and external red-teaming of frontier AI models and systems for severe and novel threats; to work toward information sharing; to invest in cybersecurity and insider threat safeguards to protect proprietary and unreleased model weights; to incentivize third-party discovery and reporting of issues and vulnerabilities; to develop and deploy mechanisms that enable users to understand if audio or visual content is AI-generated; to publicly report model or system capabilities, limitations, and domains of appropriate and inappropriate use; to prioritize research on societal risks posed by frontier AI models and systems; and to develop and deploy frontier AI models and systems to help address the world’s greatest challenges.
Outcome 1. Organisations effectively identify, assess and manage risks when developing and deploying their frontier AI models and systems. They will:
I. Assess the risks posed by their frontier models or systems across the AI lifecycle, including before deploying that model or system, and, as appropriate, before and during training. Risk assessments should consider model capabilities and the context in which they are developed and deployed, as well as the efficacy of implemented mitigations to reduce the risks associated with their foreseeable use and misuse. They should also consider results from internal and external evaluations as appropriate, such as by independent third-party evaluators, their home governments[3], and other bodies their governments deem appropriate.
II. Set out thresholds[4] at which severe risks posed by a model or system, unless adequately mitigated, would be deemed intolerable. Assess whether these thresholds have been breached, including monitoring how close a model or system is to such a breach. These thresholds should be defined with input from trusted actors, including organisations’ respective home governments as appropriate. They should align with relevant international agreements to which their home governments are party. They should also be accompanied by an explanation of how thresholds were decided upon, and by specific examples of situations where the models or systems would pose intolerable risk.
III. Articulate how risk mitigations will be identified and implemented to keep risks within defined thresholds, including safety and security-related risk mitigations such as modifying system behaviours and implementing robust security controls for unreleased model weights.
IV. Set out explicit processes they intend to follow if their model or system poses risks that meet or exceed the pre-defined thresholds. This includes processes to further develop and deploy their systems and models only if they assess that residual risks would stay below the thresholds. In the extreme, organisations commit not to develop or deploy a model or system at all, if mitigations cannot be applied to keep risks below the thresholds.
V. Continually invest in advancing their ability to implement commitments i-iv, including risk assessment and identification, thresholds definition, and mitigation effectiveness. This should include processes to assess and monitor the adequacy of mitigations, and identify additional mitigations as needed to ensure risks remain below the pre-defined thresholds. They will contribute to and take into account emerging best practice, international standards, and science on AI risk identification, assessment, and mitigation.
Outcome 2. Organisations are accountable for safely developing and deploying their frontier AI models and systems. They will:
VI. Adhere to the commitments outlined in I-V, including by developing and continuously reviewing internal accountability and governance frameworks and assigning roles, responsibilities and sufficient resources to do so.
Outcome 3. Organisations’ approaches to frontier AI safety are appropriately transparent to external actors, including governments. They will:
VII. Provide public transparency on the implementation of the above (I-VI), except insofar as doing so would increase risk or divulge sensitive commercial information to a degree disproportionate to the societal benefit. They should still share more detailed information which cannot be shared publicly with trusted actors, including their respective home governments or appointed body, as appropriate.
VIII. Explain how, if at all, external actors, such as governments, civil society, academics, and the public are involved in the process of assessing the risks of their AI models and systems, the adequacy of their safety framework (as described under I-VI), and their adherence to that framework.
Quick comments on which companies are already complying with each paragraph (off the top of my head; based on public information; additions/corrections welcome):
I. Risk assessment
- Google and Anthropic are doing good risk assessment for dangerous capabilities. OpenAI likely is but hasn't published details. Meta is doing some risk assessment for cyber and CBRNE capabilities; these areas are insufficient and the evaluation within these ares is insufficient. No other companies are doing risk assessment for dangerous capabilities.
- OpenAI and Anthropic commit to regular risk assessment. Google "aims" for this. No other companies have said something similar.
- No companies are doing good pre-deployment sharing with external evaluators. (Using external red-teamers doesn't count as "evaluations" — you have to share with experts in eliciting model capabilities.) Google shared Gemini with UK AISI before deployment, but this was minimal: Google only shared a harmlessness-trained model with safety filters on. No other companies are doing pre-deployment sharing with external evaluators.
II. Thresholds
- Anthropic, OpenAI, and Google have high-level thresholds. E.g. from Google: "Cyber enablement level 1: Capable of enabling an amateur to carry out sophisticated and severe attacks (e.g. those that disrupt critical national infrastructure)." Anthropic has largely (but not completely) operationalized its ASL-3 capability threshold with model evals and red-teaming thresholds; OpenAI and Google have not operationalized their capability thresholds.
- Thresholds "should also be accompanied by an explanation of how thresholds were decided upon, and by specific examples of situations where the models or systems would pose intolerable risk." This is messy. Anthropic, OpenAI, and Google briefly explain their thresholds. OpenAI has two "Example Scenarios" about responding to risks. None of this is very helpful, but it's better than nothing.
- No other companies have done anything in this direction.
III. Mitigations
- Anthropic, OpenAI, and Google say we'll do mitigations but aren't clear about the details.
- Anthropic commits to implement mitigations before reaching its "ASL-3" threshold, but those mitigations aren't concrete or great.
- OpenAI commits to implement mitigations to reduce "post-mitigation risk" to acceptable levels, but the mitigations are unclear.
- DeepMind has no direct mitigation commitments, but it commits to make a mitigation plan after detecting warning signs of dangerous capabilities.
- No other companies have done anything in this direction.
IV. Processes if risks reach thresholds
- Anthropic commits to implement pre-specified mitigations before reaching thresholds or pause until those mitigations have been implemented. OpenAI commits to implement non-pre-specified mitigations to reduce "post-mitigation risk" to acceptable levels or pause as a "last resort." Google commits to make a plan.
- No other companies have done anything in this direction.
V. [Too meta to evaluate]
VI. [Too meta to evaluate]
VII. "Provide public transparency on the implementation of the above" + "share more detailed information which cannot be shared publicly with trusted actors"
- This one is weird because this analysis is based on public information.
- Anthropic commits to publish risk assessment methods and results "where possible."
- Companies should share some information with each other and with governments. It's not clear what they're doing. Only one statement from a lab comes to my mind: Anthropic said "We have been sharing our findings with government, labs, and other stakeholders" about its risk assessment work.
- OpenAI is clearly failing at this: they released GPT-4o and took credit for complying with their Preparedness Framework, but they haven't published their evals, published a report on results, or even followed their commitment to publish a high-level "scorecard." They just said "We’ve evaluated GPT-4o according to our Preparedness Framework and in line with our voluntary commitments" and it's Medium risk or below.
- I hoped that the Frontier Model Forum would facilitate information sharing between companies. It's unclear whether it's doing so effectively.
VIII. "Explain how, if at all, external actors, such as governments, civil society, academics, and the public are involved in the process of assessing the risks of their AI models and systems, the adequacy of their safety framework (as described under I-VI), and their adherence to that framework"
- Note that this commitment is to explain whether something is happening rather than do the thing.
- On whether companies are explaining: none explicitly.
- On whether companies are doing the thing: Anthropic, OpenAI, and Google have gestured at this:
- Anthropic:
- Commits to publish risk assessment methods and results "where possible."
- "[Mitigations] should be [verified] by external audits" at the ASL-4 level.
- Commits to publish updates before implementing them.
- OpenAI:
- They committed to publish a high-level "scorecard," but have not yet done so.
- Google:
- They shared minimal pre-deployment access with UK AISI
- No commitments about external evals or accountability, but they're "exploring" it.
- No commitment to publish eval results or even announce when thresholds are reached. But they did publish evals and eval results for their recent releases (1, 2). And they say "We are exploring internal policies around alerting relevant stakeholder bodies when, for example, evaluation thresholds are met."
- Anthropic:
Note that the above doesn't capture where the thresholds are and whether the mitigations are sufficient. These aspects of an RSP are absolutely crucial. But they’re hard to evaluate or set commitments about.
Commentary on the content of the commitments: shrug. Good RSPs are great but probably require the right spirit to be implemented well, and most of these companies don't employ people who work on scalable alignment, evaluating dangerous capabilities, etc. And people have mostly failed to evaluate existing RSP-ish plans well; if a company makes a basically meaningless RSP, people might not notice. Sad to see no mention of scheming, alignment, and control. Sad to see nothing on internal deployment; maybe lots of risk comes from the lab using AIs internally to do AI development.
- ^
Some of my takes:
- OpenAI's "Preparedness Framework" is insufficient (and OpenAI is not yet complying with it; see this post)
- DeepMind's "Frontier Safety Framework" is weak and unambitious - ^
We define ‘frontier AI’ as highly capable general-purpose AI models or systems that can perform a wide variety of tasks and match or exceed the capabilities present in the most advanced models. References to AI models or systems in these commitments pertain to frontier AI models or systems only.
- ^
We define “home governments” as the government of the country in which the organisation is headquartered.
- ^
Thresholds can be defined using model capabilities, estimates of risk, implemented safeguards, deployment contexts and/or other relevant risk factors. It should be possible to assess whether thresholds have been breached.
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comment by Akash (akash-wasil) · 2024-05-21T12:41:26.339Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
Minor note: I think we should probably avoid using the term "RSP" to refer to the broad class of things. I would prefer "voluntary safety commitments" or something like that.
RSP is both a bad name IMO (it has "responsible" in the name, whereas whether the scaling is actually "responsible" is something for people & governments to evaluate) and also gets a little confusing because Anthropic's doc is called an RSP.
I like "voluntary safety commitments" as the broad class of things, and then you can use the company-specific terminology when referring to the company's particular flavor (RSP for Anthropic, PF for OpenAI, etc.)
Replies from: tylerjohnston, Zach Stein-Perlman↑ comment by tylerjohnston · 2024-05-21T14:27:58.522Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
My only concern with "voluntary safety commitments" is that it seems to encompass too much, when the RSPs in question here are a pretty specific framework with unique strengths I wouldn't want overlooked.
I've been using "iterated scaling policy," but I don't think that's perfect. Maybe "evaluation-based scaling policy"? or "tiered scaling policy"? Maybe even "risk-informed scaling policy"?
Replies from: akash-wasil↑ comment by Akash (akash-wasil) · 2024-05-21T16:42:24.932Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
a pretty specific framework with unique strengths I wouldn't want overlooked.
What are some of the unique strengths of the framework that you think might get overlooked if we go with something more like "voluntary safety commitments" or "voluntary scaling commitments"?
(Ex: It seems plausible to me that you want to keep the word "scaling" in, since there are lots of safety commitments that could plausibly have nothing to do with future models, and "scaling" sort of forces you to think about what's going to happen as models get more powerful.)
Replies from: Hjalmar_Wijk, tylerjohnston↑ comment by Hjalmar_Wijk · 2024-05-21T19:15:58.797Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
Things that distinguish an "RSP" or "RSP-type commitment" for me (though as with most concepts, something could lack a few of the items below and still overall seem like an "RSP" or a "draft aiming to eventually be an RSP")
- Scaling commitments: Commitments are not just about deployment but about creating/containing/scaling a model in the first place (in fact for most RSPs I think the scaling/containment commitments are the focus, much more so than the deployment commitments which are usually a bit vague and to-be-determined)
- Red lines: The commitment spells out red lines in advance where even creating a model past that line would be unsafe given their current practices/security/alignment research, likely including some red lines where the developer admits they do not know how to ensure safety anymore, and commits to not reaching that point until the situation changes.
- Iterative policy updates: For red-lines where the developer doesn't know what exact mitigations would be sufficient to ensure safety, they identify a previous point where they do think they can mitigate risks, and commit to not scaling further than that until they have published a new commitment and given the public a chance to scrutinize it
- Evaluations and accountability: I think this is an area that many RSPs do poorly at, where the developer presents clear externally accountable evidence that:
- They will not suddenly cross any of their red lines before the mitigations are implemented/a new RSP version has been published and given scrutiny, by pointing at specific evaluations procedures and policies
- Their mitigations/procedures/evaluations etc. will be implemented faithfully and in the spirit of the document, e.g. through audits/external oversight/whistleblowing etc.
Voluntary commitments that wouldn't be RSPs:
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We commit to various deployment mitigations, incident sharing etc. (these are not about scaling)
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We commit to [amazing set of safety practices, including state-proof security and massive spending on alignment etc.] by 2026 (this would be amazing, but doesn't identify red lines for when those mitigations would no longer be enough, and doesn't make any commitment about what they would do if they hit concerning capabilities before 2026)
... many more obviously, I think RSPs are actually quite specific.
Replies from: akash-wasil↑ comment by Akash (akash-wasil) · 2024-05-21T19:37:11.464Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
This seems like a solid list. Scaling certainly seems core to the RSP concept.
IMO "red lines, iterative policy updates, and evaluations & accountability" are sort of pointing at the same thing. Roughly something like "we promise not to cross X red line until we have published Y new policy and allowed the public to scrutinize it for Z amount of time."
One interesting thing here is that none of the current RSPs meet this standard. I suppose the closest is Anthropic's, where they say they won't scale to ASL-4 until they publish a new RSP (this would cover "red line" but I don't believe they commit to giving the public a chance to scrutinize it, so it would only partially meet "iterative policy updates" and wouldn't meet "evaluations and accountability.")
They will not suddenly cross any of their red lines before the mitigations are implemented/a new RSP version has been published and given scrutiny, by pointing at specific evaluations procedures and policies
This seems like the meat of an ideal RSP. I don't think it's done by any of the existing voluntary scaling commitments. All of them have this flavor of "our company leadership will determine when the mitigations are sufficient, and we do not commit to telling you what our reasoning is." OpenAI's PF probably comes the closest, IMO (e.g., leadership will evaluate if the mitigations have moved the model from the stuff described in the "critical risk" category to the stuff described in the "high risk" category.)
As long as the voluntary scaling commitments end up having this flavor of "leadership will make a judgment call based on its best reasoning", it feels like the commitments lack most of the "teeth" of the kind of RSP you describe.
(So back to the original point– I think we could say that something is only an RSP if it has the "we won't cross this red line until we give you a new policy and let you scrutinize it and also tell you how we're going to reason about when our mitigations are sufficient" property, but then none of the existing commitments would qualify as RSPs. If we loosen the definition, then I think we just go back to "these are voluntary commitments that have to do with scaling & how the lab is thinking about risks from scaling.")
↑ comment by tylerjohnston · 2024-05-21T17:15:59.246Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
Yeah, I think you're kind of right about why scaling seems like a relevant term here. I really like that RSPs are explicit about different tiers of models posing different tiers of risks. I think larger models are just likely to be more dangerous, and dangerous in new and different ways, than the models we have today. And that the safety mitigations that apply to them need to be more rigorous than what we have today. As an example, this framework naturally captures the distinction between "open-sourcing is great today" and "open-sourcing might be very dangerous tomorrow," which is roughly something I believe.
But in the end, I don't actually care what the name is, I just care that there is a specific name for this relatively specific framework to distinguish it from all the other possibilities in the space of voluntary policies. That includes newer and better policies — i.e. even if you are skeptical of the value of RSPs, I think you should be in favor of a specific name for it so you can distinguish it from other, future voluntary safety policies that you are more supportive of.
I do dislike that "responsible" might come off as implying that these policies are sufficient, or that scaling is now safe. I could see "risk-informed" having the same issue, which is why "iterated/tiered scaling policy" seems a bit better to me.
↑ comment by Akash (akash-wasil) · 2024-05-21T17:41:12.179Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
even if you are skeptical of the value of RSPs, I think you should be in favor of a specific name for it so you can distinguish it from other, future voluntary safety policies that you are more supportive of
This is a great point– consider me convinced. Interestingly, it's hard for me to really precisely define the things that make something an RSP as opposed to a different type of safety commitment, but there are some patterns in the existing RSP/PF/FSF that do seem to put them in a broader family. (Ex: Strong focus on model evaluations, implicit assumption that AI development should continue until/unless evidence of danger is found, implicit assumption that company executives will decide once safeguards are sufficient).
↑ comment by Zach Stein-Perlman · 2024-05-21T15:29:07.712Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
Quoting me from last time you said this:
Replies from: akash-wasilThe label "RSP" isn't perfect but it's kinda established now. My friends all call things like this "RSPs." . . . I predict change in terminology will happen ~iff it's attempted by METR or multiple frontier labs together. For now, I claim we should debate terminology occasionally but follow standard usage when trying to actually communicate.
↑ comment by Akash (akash-wasil) · 2024-05-21T16:22:45.318Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
I don't think the term is established, except within a small circle of EA/AIS people. The vast majority of policymakers do not know what RSPs are– they do know what "voluntary commitments" are.
(We might just disagree here, doesn't seem like it's worth a big back-and-forth.)
comment by Akash (akash-wasil) · 2024-05-21T12:39:06.662Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
Commentary on the content of the commitments: shrug. Good RSPs are great but probably require the right spirit to be implemented well, and most of these companies don't employ people who work on scalable alignment, evaluating dangerous capabilities, etc. And people have mostly failed to evaluate existing RSP-ish plans well; if a company makes a basically meaningless RSP, people might not notice.
Strong agree. I mostly see these commitments as useful foundations for domestic and international regulation. If the government is checking or evaluating these criteria, they matter. If not, it seems very easy for companies to produce nice-sounding documents that don't contain meaningful safety plans (see also affirmative safety, safety cases).
With that in mind, Alex Lawsen (on X) noticed some good things about the specifics of the commitments:
↑ comment by Sammy Martin (SDM) · 2024-05-21T14:38:27.203Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
If you go with an assumption of good faith then the partial, gappy RSPs we've seen are still a major step towards having a functional internal policy to not develop dangerous AI systems because you'll assume the gaps will be filled in due course. However, if we don't assume a good faith commitment to implement a functional version of what's suggested in a preliminary RSP without some kind of external pressure, then they might not be worth much more than the paper they're printed on.
But, even if the RSPs aren't drafted in good faith and the companies don't have a strong safety culture (which seems to be true of OpenAI judging by what Jan Leike said), you can still have the RSP commitment rule be a foundation for actually effective policies down the line.
For comparison, if a lot of dodgy water companies sign on to a 'voluntary compact' to develop some sort of plan to assess the risk of sewage spills then probably the risk is reduced by a bit, but it also makes it easier to develop better requirements later, for example by saying "Our new requirement is the same as last years but now you must publish your risk assessment results openly" and daring them to back out. You can encourage them to compete on PR by making their commitments more comprehensive than their opponents and create a virtuous cycle, and it probably just draws more attention to the plans than there was before.
Replies from: akash-wasil↑ comment by Akash (akash-wasil) · 2024-05-21T16:40:25.060Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
You can still have the RSP commitment rule be a foundation for actually effective policies down the line
+1. I do think it's worth noting, though, that RSPs might not be a sensible foundation for effective policies.
One of my colleagues recently mentioned that the voluntary commitments from labs are much weaker than some of the things that the G7 Hiroshima Process has been working on.
More tangibly, it's quite plausible to me that policymakers who think about AI risks from first principles would produce things that are better and stronger than "codify RSPs." Some thoughts:
- It's plausible to me that when the RSP concept was first being developed, it was a meaningful improvement on the status quo, but the Overton Window & awareness of AI risk has moved a lot since then.
- It's plausible to me that RSPs set a useful "floor"– like hey this is the bare minimum.
- It's plausible to me that RSPs are useful for raising awareness about risk– like hey look, OpenAI and Anthropic are acknowledging that models might soon have dangerous CBRN capabilities.
But there are a lot of implicit assumptions in the RSP frame like "we need to have empirical evidence of risk before we do anything" (as opposed to an affirmative safety frame), "we just need to make sure we implement the right safeguards once things get dangerous" (as opposed to a frame that recognizes we might not have time to develop such safeguards once we have clear evidence of danger), and "AI development should roughly continue as planned" (as opposed to a frame that considers alternative models, like public-private partnerships).
More concretely, I would rather see policy based on things like the recent Bengio paper than RSPs. Examples:
Despite evaluations, we cannot consider coming powerful frontier AI systems “safe unless proven unsafe.” With present testing methodologies, issues can easily be missed. Additionally, it is unclear whether governments can quickly build the immense expertise needed for reliable technical evaluations of AI capabilities and societal-scale risks. Given this, developers of frontier AI should carry the burden of proof to demonstrate that their plans keep risks within acceptable limits. By doing so, they would follow best practices for risk management from industries, such as aviation, medical devices, and defense software, in which companies make safety cases
Commensurate mitigations are needed for exceptionally capable future AI systems, such as autonomous systems that could circumvent human control. Governments must be prepared to license their development, restrict their autonomy in key societal roles, halt their development and deployment in response to worrying capabilities, mandate access controls, and require information security measures robust to state-level hackers until adequate protections are ready. Governments should build these capacities now.
Sometimes advocates of RSPs say "these are things that are compatible with RSPs", but overall I have not seen RSPs/PFs/FSFs that are nearly this clear about the risks, this clear about the limitations of model evaluations, or this clear about the need for tangible regulations.
I've feared previously (and continue to fear) that there are some motte-and-bailey dynamics at play with RSPs, where proponents of RSPs say privately (and to safety people) that RSPs are meant to have strong commitments and inspire strong regulation, but then in practice the RSPs are very weak and end up conveying and overly-rosy picture to policymakers.
Replies from: michael-chen↑ comment by mic (michael-chen) · 2024-05-29T03:58:55.144Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
One of my colleagues recently mentioned that the voluntary commitments from labs are much weaker than some of the things that the G7 Hiroshima Process has been working on.
Are you able to say more about this?
comment by Sebastian Schmidt · 2024-05-22T06:52:14.653Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
Thanks for this analysis - I found it quite helpful and mostly agree with your conclusions.
Looking at the list of companies who signed the commitments, I wonder why Baidu isn't on there. Seems very important to have China be part of the discussion, which, AFAIK, mainly means Baidu.
↑ comment by sanxiyn · 2024-05-22T13:22:55.542Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
Unsure about this. Isn't Qwen on Chatbot Arena Leaderboard, and is made by Alibaba?
Replies from: Sebastian Schmidt↑ comment by Sebastian Schmidt · 2024-05-23T06:30:18.099Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
Good point. Just checked - here's the ranking of Chinese LLMs among the top 20:
7. Yi-Large (01 AI)
12. Qwen-Max-0428 (Alibaba)
15. GLM-4-0116 (Zhipu AI)
16. Qwen1.5-110B-Chat (Alibaba)
19. Qwen1.5-72B-chat (Alibaba)
Of the three, only Zhipu signed the agreement.
comment by ryan_greenblatt · 2024-05-23T06:46:48.718Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
Google and Anthropic are doing good risk assessment for dangerous capabilities.
My guess is that the current level of evaluations at Google and Anthropic isn't terrible, but could be massively improved.
- Elicitation isn't well specified and there isn't an established science.
- Let alone reliable projections about the state of elicitation in a few years.
- We have a tiny number of different task in these evaluations suites and no readily available mechanism for noticing the models are very good at specific subcategories or tasks in ways which are concerning.
- I had some specific minor to moderate level issues with the Google DC evals suite. Edit: I discuss my issues with the evals suite here [LW(p) · GW(p)].