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Comment by crap on Some scary life extension dilemmas · 2013-01-03T11:33:01.476Z · score: 2 (4 votes) · LW · GW

Look. Simple utilitarianism doesn't have to be correct. It looks like a wrong idea to me. Often, when reasoning informally, people confabulate wrong formal sounding things that loosely match their intuitions. And then declare that normative.

Is a library of copies of one book worth the same to you? Is a library of books of 1 author worth as much? Does variety ever truly count for nothing? There's no reason why u("AB") should be equal to u("A")+u("B"). People pick + because they are bad at math , or perhaps bad at knowing when they are being bad at math. edit: When you try to math-ize your morality, poor knowledge of math serves as Orwellian newspeak, it defines the way you think. It is hard to choose correct function even if there was any, and years of practice on too simple problems make wrong functions pop into your head.

Comment by crap on Rationality Quotes January 2013 · 2013-01-02T23:10:26.846Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · LW · GW

Ohh, I agree. I just don't think that there is a corresponding neurological distinction. (Original quote was about evolution).

Comment by crap on Rationality Quotes January 2013 · 2013-01-02T22:42:58.156Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · LW · GW

Propositional logic is made of many very simple steps, though.

Comment by crap on Rationality Quotes January 2013 · 2013-01-02T12:01:58.486Z · score: 2 (4 votes) · LW · GW

What is analytical thinking, but a sequence of steps of heuristics well vetted not to lead to contradictions?

Comment by crap on Donation tradeoffs in conscientious objection · 2012-12-28T19:05:26.208Z · score: 0 (2 votes) · LW · GW

Replied in PM.

Comment by crap on Donation tradeoffs in conscientious objection · 2012-12-28T17:19:41.120Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · LW · GW

If worst comes to worst, refuse to sign any papers what so ever, you'll go to prison for a few years. Or shoot yourself in the foot on accident, that flips burden of proof. It's called non-violent resistance. I don't think US would allow any other form of objection (edit: besides e.g. being Amish). There are 2 types of conscription. Total war conscription to win an important war where you have a lot to lose; this one would go nuclear within the first hour. And majority enslaving minority, the only type of conscription possible in the US.

Comment by crap on META: Deletion policy · 2012-12-27T22:26:37.066Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · LW · GW

No one here felt distraught with religion? Not even a little? :)

Comment by crap on Morality Isn't Logical · 2012-12-27T14:39:52.132Z · score: 1 (3 votes) · LW · GW

Difference in values is a little overstated, I think. Practically, there's little difference between what people say they'd do in Milgram experiment, but a huge difference between what they actually do.

Comment by crap on META: Deletion policy · 2012-12-27T10:32:52.629Z · score: 0 (2 votes) · LW · GW

A crazy idea reflects badly on the ideology that spawned the crazy idea.

Comment by crap on Morality Isn't Logical · 2012-12-27T09:48:32.325Z · score: 2 (2 votes) · LW · GW

1st link is ambiguity aversion.

Morality is commonly taken to describe what one will actually do when they are trading off private gains vs other people's losses. See this as example of moral judgement. Suppose Roberts is smarter. He will quickly see that he can donate 10% to charity, and it'll take longer for him to reason about value of cash that was not given to him (reasoning that may stop him from pressing the button), so there will be a transient during which he pushes the button, unless he somehow suppresses actions during transients. It's an open ended problem 'unlike logic' because consequences are difficult to evaluate.

edit: been in a hurry.

Comment by crap on Morality Isn't Logical · 2012-12-27T09:15:37.895Z · score: 3 (5 votes) · LW · GW

People do all sorts of sloppy reasoning; everyday logic also arrives at both A and ~A ; any sort of fuzziness leads to that. To actually be moral, it is necessary that you can't arrive at both A and ~A at will - otherwise your morality provides no constraint.

Comment by crap on The Apologist and the Revolutionary · 2012-12-26T22:59:14.162Z · score: 0 (0 votes) · LW · GW

My understanding is that this only works for specific type of focal brain damage. I.e. if you had gross denial that you have a paralysed limb. I never heard that it e.g. relieves delusions in mental disorders, and i'd think everyday self deception is less similar to focal brain damage than to mental disorder.

Comment by crap on Ideal Advisor Theories and Personal CEV · 2012-12-26T06:13:22.221Z · score: 3 (5 votes) · LW · GW

But if the hypotheses are intelligent and run by superintelligence?

Comment by crap on Ideal Advisor Theories and Personal CEV · 2012-12-25T18:22:58.812Z · score: 2 (6 votes) · LW · GW

What's about moral objections to creation of multitude of agents for the purposes of evaluation?

Comment by crap on In which I ask an inappropriate question... · 2012-12-23T15:25:52.097Z · score: 4 (8 votes) · LW · GW

It would create a kooky outgroup faction, the Violent Anti-Smokers, that people would be afraid to be associated with, so people would become uncomfortable with being too vocally anti-smoking lest they be mistaken for one of Them.

Exactly. It already happened to Germany with precisely this result. (You know who else was against smoking? Hitler, that's who!)

Comment by crap on So you think you understand Quantum Mechanics · 2012-12-23T04:54:01.093Z · score: 2 (10 votes) · LW · GW

You're doing a world of good with this. People take their uneducated guesses far, far too seriously (QM and morality etc).

Comment by crap on Dying in Many Worlds · 2012-12-22T20:04:25.130Z · score: 4 (4 votes) · LW · GW

Well, if quantum immortality worked, so would quantum insomnia, or quantum sobriety, or the like. Being distracted in the middle of the thought - there's you that weren't distracted, why you're not always him? Or: there got to be a parallel you that via sheer chance effectively did not advance a timestep, and he's more similar to you now than the one that did.

More generally, don't take things too seriously for mere lack of a counter argument. Fringe ideas are mostly discussed by their promoters, while detractors have bigger fish to fry.