Comment by kevin92 on No Really, Why Aren't Rationalists Winning? · 2018-11-10T19:58:42.790Z · score: 2 (2 votes) · LW · GW

To be clear: I don't actually live there.

Comment by kevin92 on No Really, Why Aren't Rationalists Winning? · 2018-11-09T21:23:13.241Z · score: 9 (6 votes) · LW · GW

I disagree with the norm that we shouldn't be a community. Maybe this is my aspie-ness talking. Maybe this is my childhood trauma talking. But caring about rationality, as well as curiosity and skepticism, is a pretty big part of who I am and I want to have a group of people in my life who are okay with that. I want to have people I can be rational around without them being rude or condescending towards me.

For example, I want people I can be around an acknowledge that high rents are caused by housing shortages instead of "tech-bros". I want it to be safe to say that without being accused of mansplaining. And people who have some interest in rationality, any interest at all, are the only people I really feel fully safe around for this reason.

Comment by kevin92 on Applause Lights · 2017-10-18T20:35:07.101Z · score: 3 (2 votes) · LW · GW

I voted for Justin Trudeau but DAMN! Listen to his speeches! They're terrible!

Comment by kevin92 on Atheism = Untheism + Antitheism · 2016-02-16T02:07:49.293Z · score: 3 (3 votes) · LW · GW

I've always thought saying that babies are atheists is like saying rocks are atheists.

Comment by kevin92 on The Virtue of Narrowness · 2016-01-28T00:58:12.728Z · score: 0 (0 votes) · LW · GW

If I knew this when I was 18 I would have been less of a know-it-all.

Comment by kevin92 on Intellectual Hipsters and Meta-Contrarianism · 2016-01-21T23:09:00.568Z · score: 3 (3 votes) · LW · GW

This triad was missed:

"Muslims are terrorists!" / "Islam is a religion of peace." / "Religion is problematic in general but Islam is the worst and I can back that claim up with statistics I read on Sam Harris' blog."

Comment by kevin92 on Interpersonal Entanglement · 2015-12-17T21:21:06.689Z · score: 2 (2 votes) · LW · GW

You ever hear of the "illusion of transparency"? Because you seem really overconfident in your ability to interpret other people's writing.

Comment by kevin92 on Interpersonal Entanglement · 2015-12-17T02:33:09.736Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · LW · GW

I acknowledge they exist. I also acknowledge they aren't all that good.

Comment by kevin92 on Interpersonal Entanglement · 2015-12-16T19:24:10.565Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · LW · GW

Most new technology has risk or sideeffects at the time it get's adopted.

Who the heck said we were talking about "the time it gets adopted"?

I didn't say baseless assertion but baseless speculation given that you don't seem to have covered the basic research of looking into the issues surrounded the existing technology, your speculation about future technology is per definition baseless.

This is a forum where people regularly talk about terraforming mars and building dyson spheres even if they have little knowledge about the subject and I'm not allowed to speculate about cosmetic bodily upgrades?

Comment by kevin92 on Interpersonal Entanglement · 2015-12-16T02:06:26.891Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · LW · GW

Yes, but the gym has a decisive advantage: it's real and the transhuman technology is imaginary.

The transhuman technology is a tentative speculation of what could happen in the future.

Remember this is a forum where people regularly talk about terraforming mars and building dyson spheres, I think speculating about transhumanism is appropriate in that context.

Which aren't all that diverse if you're talking about looks.

I'm unsure about this. My taste in looks for mating partners is very diverse, and I'm only one individual. But then again I'm likely to be an outlier and it would be silly to assume other people are like me. But even if it's true that women don't have diverse tastes, I don't think that means we should throw male individuals under the bus by denying them bodily upgrades just for the sake of "diversity". Imagine going up to Joe Wilson of Boston and saying: "sorry bro, but we're going to keep you fat so we can have diversity."

Comment by kevin92 on Interpersonal Entanglement · 2015-12-16T01:43:14.871Z · score: 4 (4 votes) · LW · GW

You didn't say anything about technology not having "unwanted health effects" before.

That was supposed to be implied. Allow me to quote Facing The Intelligence Explosion by Luke Muehlhauser:

One day, my friend Niel asked his virtual assistant in India to find him a bike he could buy that day. She sent him a list of bikes for sale from all over the world. Niel said, “No, I need one I can buy in Oxford today; it has to be local.” So she sent him a long list of bikes available in Oxford, most of them expensive. Niel clarified that he wanted an inexpensive bike. So she sent him a list of children’s bikes. He clarified that he needed a local, inexpensive bike that fit an adult male. So she sent him a list of adult bikes in Oxford needing repair. Usually humans understand each other’s desires better than this. Our evolved psychological unity causes us to share a common sense and common desires. Ask me to find you a bike, and I’ll assume you want one in working condition, that fits your size, is not made of gold, etc.—even though you didn’t actually say any of that.

You appear to be acting like that virtual assistant. People's suggestions can only properly be understood in the context of common sense.

And generally it is considered okay for people to speculate by saying "hey, what if X happens, it might be a good idea" as long as X is possible and the speculator is not asserting X definitely can or will happen. It's pretty crazy to enforce a rule against speculation and brainstorming. You appear to be reacting as if I'm saying: "hey we will definitely be doing X in the future! There is no reason not to and no reason it could go wrong."

The difference between speculation and baseless assertion is the difference between making a tentative suggestion in what could happen and making an uninformed suggestion about what will happen.

Comment by kevin92 on Interpersonal Entanglement · 2015-12-16T01:04:23.567Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · LW · GW

Are you saying that technology to enhance the appearance of the male body without having unwanted health effects is so implausible that it will never happen? Because over the long term (200-1000 years from now) I prefer to avoid saying "technology X will never happen" unless there's an actual law of physics that says so. Remember that this is just speculation.

Comment by kevin92 on Interpersonal Entanglement · 2015-12-16T00:01:32.496Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · LW · GW

Yeah I know it's a shitty argument I admit it.

I fully understand what you are trying to say. The problem is that thinking about the issue that way is inproductive. You don't engage with the actual knowledge we have about making people more fit.

I see. But does this imply that we shouldn't use transhuman technology to make people more muscular? If we could use such technology, why wouldn't we?

Comment by kevin92 on Interpersonal Entanglement · 2015-12-15T23:46:18.089Z · score: -1 (1 votes) · LW · GW

When I was between the ages of 14 and 20 I was 135 pounds no matter what I ate, and I didn't watch my diet at all. I imagine I could have gained weight if I "tried hard enough" but it would have involved eating obscene amounts of sugary and fatty foods. We're talking about an "epic meal time" everyday style diet.

Comment by kevin92 on Interpersonal Entanglement · 2015-12-15T23:27:25.545Z · score: 0 (2 votes) · LW · GW

I'm not new to lesswrong. I'm active on the Facebook group and have read most of the sequences.

What makes you believe that's true? Leaving out people with real disabilities for the sake of the discussion.

My mom is a doctor, and she says genetics are the biggest factor in what people look like. I know that's not a perfect source but it's worth something EDIT: Yeah I know that's a really shitty argument, but it's not so much an argument as it is a clarification of where I got the idea. But anyway, doesn't it seem a bit far fetched to say that anybody can become muscular if they just work hard enough? That sound a lot like saying anyone can become rich if they just work hard enough, or anyone can learn calculus if they just study hard enough. In real life people have different levels of natural ability, different privileges and other advantages.

The gym does what you were talking about. It might not have been what you where thinking about.

That's one possible interpretation of my words. But what I'm intending to refer to. I'm talking about biotechnology / transhuman technology. Try listening to what I'm actually trying to say. The gym is irrelevant to my actual point.

Comment by kevin92 on Interpersonal Entanglement · 2015-12-15T22:49:17.696Z · score: 0 (0 votes) · LW · GW

Original comment edited to account for this objection.

Comment by kevin92 on Interpersonal Entanglement · 2015-12-15T22:48:21.682Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · LW · GW

The gym is not nearly as powerful as the technology I'm talking about. I'm talking about biotechnology / transhuman technology. Men given the genetic short end of the stick can't reasonably expect to look fit no matter how much they work out, unless they don't have a job or any time consuming responsibilities. And no I'm not a jealous fat guy. I'm not athlete, but I'm in decent shape.

And what I'm talking about here is upgrading the average man's attractiveness so that it's on par with the average woman's attractiveness. Nobody complains that all women look the same. In fact women look very diverse. I'm talking about a scenario where men look as diverse as women do.

Also due to supply and demand, there would be an incentive for men to look diverse to match the diversity of women's desires. A higher supply of Ryan Gosling clones than there is demand for Ryan Gosling clones would create incentives for men to look different from Ryan Gosling.

Comment by kevin92 on Interpersonal Entanglement · 2015-12-14T22:13:14.901Z · score: 0 (0 votes) · LW · GW

Are you suggesting that my scenario would make men look fake or make them all look the same? Because if you can't imagine what I suggested without that happening it implies at least one of two things:

  1. I described it poorly.
  2. You need a better imagination.
Comment by kevin92 on Interpersonal Entanglement · 2015-12-14T22:04:36.935Z · score: 0 (0 votes) · LW · GW

Well people dislike PUAs because they see them as emotionally manipulative and dishonest, (which is sometimes true) and I don't think problem would be present here.

Comment by kevin92 on Interpersonal Entanglement · 2015-12-14T14:06:13.360Z · score: 0 (4 votes) · LW · GW

Thought: Something we could do (eventually) to make the world a better place is to use technology to upgrade every man's body. Make most men taller, more muscular, leaner, etc. Men who currently have relatively less attractive bodies will get a larger upgrade than men who have relatively more attractive bodies to make it fair. But make sure there is still variety in what men's bodies look like.

Do this until the average man is as sexually attractive to the average women as the average woman is to the average man. That would solve a lot of problems. And I don't think either gender would be uncomfortable with that scenario.

Edit: We could also upgrade things like smell and voice timbre.

Edit2: The gym is not nearly as powerful as the technology I'm talking about. I'm talking about some kind of biotechnology or transhuman technology

Comment by kevin92 on Ideas for rationality slogans? · 2015-09-20T17:23:04.958Z · score: 5 (5 votes) · LW · GW

Reversed Stupidity Is Not Intelligence.

Slightly more than 5 words:

The facts don't know whose side their on.

Every cause wants to be a cult.

Comment by kevin92 on No One Knows What Science Doesn't Know · 2015-06-07T03:37:20.792Z · score: 0 (0 votes) · LW · GW

Yes I get the difference, but the deal with "no one knows what science doesn't know" is that someone could say there are exceptions we don't know about or things we overlooked, just like Newton overlooked things that Einstein discovered.

Comment by kevin92 on No One Knows What Science Doesn't Know · 2015-06-07T00:12:17.387Z · score: 0 (0 votes) · LW · GW

Can this article be used to defend to idea that one day we may do things we currently believe are "physically impossible" such as build perpetual motion machines or alter physical constants?

Comment by kevin92 on Using Evolution for Marriage or Sex · 2014-03-28T00:17:06.834Z · score: 0 (0 votes) · LW · GW

I upvoted this post simply because I appreciate the OP having the courage to touch on a taboo topic.

Also I love this paragraph:

When I say "A guy does D when G happens" please read: "There are statistically significant, or theoretically significant reasons from social endocrinology, or social and evolutionary psychology to believe that under circumstances broadly similar to G, human males, on average, will be inclined towards behaving in manners broadly similar to the D way. Also, most tests are made with western human males, tests are less than 40 years old, subject to publication bias, and sometimes done by people who don't understand math well enough to do their statistics homework, they have not been replicated several times, and they are less homogenous than physics, because psychology is more complex than physics."

Having said that I will not be incorporating his advice into my life. Why?

Well I learned social skills later in my childhood and adolescence than most other people, I also acquired them more deliberately and consciously than most people. Having said that, I eventually developed a social skills intuition. I've learned it's usually best to trust my intuition. Mating really is a situation where it's best to become a jedi and use the force rather then whip out the targeting computer.

For me, this post might actually be an epistemic/instrumental tradeoff. It is epistemically rational to believe this information, but it is instrumentally rational to ignore it.

Comment by kevin92 on Conversation Halters · 2014-03-26T23:27:37.757Z · score: 0 (0 votes) · LW · GW

I notice I'm confused.

I literally don't know what it means to say "The definition of words are not arbitrary." I suspect either that I lack the background knowledge to understand this sentence, or ironically Eliezer and I may have a different definition of the word arbitrary.

Furthermore, I don't know what the implications are of what he's trying to say. Is he saying that language is not a system of symbols? Is he saying that every word has a "correct" definition?

Comment by kevin92 on Why do people ____? · 2014-03-23T20:18:09.828Z · score: 0 (0 votes) · LW · GW

I've had intrusive thoughts too and I've wondered how common they are. Thank you for letting me know that they are something most people experience. I would share some on here, but they're pretty embarrassing.

Comment by Kevin92 on [deleted post] 2014-02-02T19:26:17.526Z

I’m starting a new biotechnology university program in September. In order to prepare myself I want to get better at math. So far I know grade 12 level functions, vectors, calculus and statistics, but I have never taken a university level math course.

Problem is, most traditional math education focuses on increasing your math knowledge. I am more interested in increasing my math talent. Very different things. I want to be better at understanding math concepts quickly and figuring out the answers to questions I haven’t encountered before. I want to increase my mathematical problem solving ability. I currently estimate my natural math talent to be around the 75th percentile. Decent, but still low enough that I should have some trouble. I want to be in the 85th percentile or higher.

Does anybody have any tips, methods, or resources that they can suggest to me for increasing my math talent?

Comment by kevin92 on Open thread, January 25- February 1 · 2014-02-02T18:59:46.502Z · score: 0 (0 votes) · LW · GW

Well I know I won't be around a computer 24/7, and I'd like something to explain it if I'm out and about. Although I suppose I could use a couple examples that I can just memorize, like strawman arguments and ad hominum.

Comment by kevin92 on Open thread, January 25- February 1 · 2014-01-30T22:42:56.974Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · LW · GW

Does anyone have a simple, easily understood definition of "logical fallacy" that can be used to explain the concept to people who have never heard of it before?

I was trying to explain the idea to a friend a few days ago but since I didn't have a definition I had to show her www.yourlogicalfallacyis.com. She understood the concept quickly, but it would be much more reliable and eloquent to actually define it.

Comment by kevin92 on Illusion of Transparency: Why No One Understands You · 2013-05-12T02:57:26.003Z · score: 2 (2 votes) · LW · GW

I believe this article illustrates the greatest cause of conflict on the internet.