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Comment by kialo_duplicate0.6405371245128635 on Kialo -- an online discussion platform that attempts to support reasonable debates · 2018-02-03T13:31:26.945Z · LW · GW

Thanks for your feed-back!

We are considering questionnaires for certain discussions, but aren't sure this would help. We do have flagging, once you have been granted discussion editor rights. Can you recommend a good quick reasoning test?

Unlike Wikipedia, not everyone can just edit a discussion. Currently you have to be invited by the discussion creators (no we haven't seen much bias due to that, as one-sided discussions look really stupid). Until you are invited you can only suggest claims, which admins have to accept. This also keeps the trolls out.

https://support.kialo.com/hc/en-us/articles/115003791445-Suggesting-Claims

The next phase will be to have user levels and allow roaming powerusers that have writers etc rights in all public discussions. We are learning as we go. As you say, dealing with controversies is a very different game than with definitions of terms (although they are sometimes controversial too and then they might well get edit-locked)

In case you are interested, some more background info about us can be found here: https://twitter.com/KialoHQ/status/956152914720026625

And a very kind shout out by Reddit cofounder Ohanian, incl how we differentiate ourselves to Reddit here: https://twitter.com/KialoHQ/status/954500647835054080

We agree that the voting and displaying of avg is not ideal and will probably introduce perspective tagging.

Msg support if you want private teams / portals, for decision-making etc..

We know we got a long arduous journey ahead of us...

Comment by kialo_duplicate0.6405371245128635 on Kialo -- an online discussion platform that attempts to support reasonable debates · 2018-02-03T13:13:50.179Z · LW · GW

An argument might also be deductive in nature and might very well not need sources. In other cases there are claims where sources might not add anything to a claims veracity/relevance, e.g. sources to pro homeopathy sites. It's the what are good sources problem...

Kialo's aim is to have viewpoint diversity and to also engage with the bad claims, which indeed might be very popular.

You are able to switch between perspectives and see how different people reason and vote the claims. We will release persona tagging to show aggregates of this. The avg being shown today isn't ideal.

We'd agree, that we still have to improve the displaying of the "results" of a discussion. One step at a time, currently we are improving the "capturing" of discussions and are revamping the whole suggestion system, to allow for better bidirectional communication: https://support.kialo.com/hc/en-us/articles/115003791445-Suggesting-Claims

Comment by kialo_duplicate0.6405371245128635 on Kialo -- an online discussion platform that attempts to support reasonable debates · 2018-02-03T13:05:59.049Z · LW · GW

Click on new, there you will see all new discussions. The discussions on the explore page are ongoing, we are thinking of revamping the whole portal though. You can also click on tags and play around with the sorting, by default we show the discussions with the most recent activity.

Comment by kialo_duplicate0.6405371245128635 on Kialo -- an online discussion platform that attempts to support reasonable debates · 2017-12-04T01:05:01.420Z · LW · GW

Thanks!

Comment by kialo_duplicate0.6405371245128635 on Kialo -- an online discussion platform that attempts to support reasonable debates · 2017-12-04T01:04:21.387Z · LW · GW

Have you seen that you can do multi theses debates and thus evaluate non-binary issues?

Here is an example by a user: https://www.kialo.com/stand-or-kneel-2995/2995.0/2995.0

We allow for comments, on claims as an additional way of interacting, but we are always happy to learn more.

Comment by kialo_duplicate0.6405371245128635 on Kialo -- an online discussion platform that attempts to support reasonable debates · 2017-12-04T01:01:23.079Z · LW · GW

Thx for the post mirefek. If you guys have suggestions on how to improve K, we are all ears.