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Signaling: Why People Have Conversations 2020-05-20T03:18:01.121Z

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Comment by liam_hinzman on Is there a website for tracking fads? · 2020-05-22T02:00:55.516Z · LW · GW

Treendly and Exploding Topics both show terms that are rapidly increasing in Google search volume.

A week ago I was curious to see if many people were cheating on the AP exams - they're online for the first time due to COVID-19. I searched "derivative" on Google Trends and saw that a ton of people were probably cheating due to a spike in search volume exactly when the AP calculus exam started (related searches also indicated what the exam question was).

Comment by liam_hinzman on Signaling: Why People Have Conversations · 2020-05-21T04:45:24.087Z · LW · GW

In this situation I like the model of player vs character. In Dungeons and Dragons you create a character sheet with abilities, stats, and motivations. This limits your options and creates preferences for certain actions but as a player you still have choice, and can still do things that are contrary to you "character sheet", it's just less likely that you will do so

I think that evolutionary psychology, specifically signaling in this case, is the reason why people enjoy conversations and it acts as our character sheet - shaping our general preferences. We as players often have different motivations for having conversations, but in aggregate the character sheet has a lot of explanatory power even if we're not consciously aware of it.

Comment by liam_hinzman on Signaling: Why People Have Conversations · 2020-05-20T05:18:46.458Z · LW · GW

I think people information trading, and coordinating are good reasons for why humans evolved language, but I think that signaling gives a stronger explanation for why "casual" conversations happen so often.

Why do you think the signaling interpretation doesn't fully explain why relevance is necessary? Your hypothesis, norms for language evolving for efficiency, makes sense to me but doesn't strike me as being a more important factor than signaling.

Comment by liam_hinzman on Signaling: Why People Have Conversations · 2020-05-20T03:07:38.621Z · LW · GW

I really appreciate the feedback! Agreed with all your points, there's a lot of areas I need to work on to improve my writing.

Signal-wise you come across as what I think of as the good side LW: well reasoned, thoughtful, and intelligent.

Sidenote: I think people (like you) who comment thoughtfully on other people's "content" make the internet a much better place.

Comment by liam_hinzman on Signaling: Why People Have Conversations · 2020-05-20T02:56:17.312Z · LW · GW

Will add, just finished reading that book. This post was my effort to solidify my main takeaway from The Elephant in the Brain for myself.

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Comment by liam_hinzman on [deleted post] 2019-11-11T18:22:12.828Z

Growth, Novelty, and Preservation

Note: This was heavily inspired by toonalfrink's recent shortform post

There's this Farnam Street blog post that says "if you can get 1 percent better each day for one year, you’ll end up thirty-seven times better by the time you’re done"

This always seemed a bit unrealistic to me, but until recently I wasn't able to pinpoint why. I think digging into this is important because it's easy to look back 1 year, see how much you've grown, and then extrapolate to your future and think "damn, there's no way I won't reach near-Elon status at some point in my life"

So why doesn't everybody become Elon?

It's because most people think: Growth = Novelty.

I thought that if I did new things, if I'm having unique experiences, getting unique insights, and having realizations, then I'm growing. This is mostly true, but it's missing an important component.

Decay.

After a lot of conferences I'll realize that I just need to stop overthinking things and network like my life depends on it. It just makes sense, and it feels like I've leveled up.

But then at the next conference I'm a bit nervous. Eventually I get into the swing of it and realize that I need to stop hesitating.

I've had two realizations, but I didn't level up twice. I leveled up once, decayed, and then got back to where I was before.

My initial response to this is "I internalized the realization more the second time". But this shows that I haven't actually grown more than how much I perceived I grew the first time.

In reality Growth = Novelty - Decay, which is equivalent to Growth = Novelty + Preservation

Preservation, compounding, consistency. Whatever you want to call it, it's important.

When I want to grow, instead of starting over ("what's the best upgrade to add to my life?") I should check whether I'm on track with the implementation of past good ideas ("what did my past self intend to do with this moment again?").