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Slowing down AI progress is an underexplored alignment strategy 2023-07-24T16:56:25.604Z

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Comment by Norman Borlaug on Slowing down AI progress is an underexplored alignment strategy · 2023-07-25T21:00:42.031Z · LW · GW

I wrote this a year ago and was not really thinking about this topic as carefully and was feeling quite emotional about the lack of effort. At the time people mostly thought slowing down AI was impossible or undesirable for some good reasons and a lot of reasons that in hindsight looked pretty dumb.

I think a better strategy would look more like “require new systems guarantee a reasonable level of interpretability and pass a set of safety benchmarks”

And eventually, if you can actually convince enough people of the danger, there should be a hard cap on the amount of compute that can be used in training runs that decreases over time to compensate for algorithmic improvements.

Comment by Norman Borlaug on Omicron Variant Post #2 · 2021-11-30T01:11:42.735Z · LW · GW

I'm confused how your estimate of the likelihood that Omicron evades vaccine protection could have gone up while your estimate of the likelihood that the previously immune are no longer protected against severe disease until they get a booster shot went down.

If vaccinated people are more likely to get infected, how is it less likely that they need an Omicron booster to protect against severe disease?

Comment by Norman Borlaug on Omicron Variant Post #1: We’re F***ed, It’s Never Over · 2021-11-29T14:45:30.400Z · LW · GW

That's certainly the argument its proponents make, and perhaps it's true in some circumstances. But after looking at some of the research grants made to the Wuhan Institute of Virology in the years leading up to the outbreak, it's clear to me that there really is dangerous research out there whose theoretical benefits are vastly outweighed by the costs.

For example, there was some really dangerous gain-of-function research happening in a BSL-2 facility, which are just not designed to contain dangerous pathogens.

But we inherently need international agreements to deal with these problems. I believe the US banning gain of function research in 2015 was one of the driving factors that pushed the research overseas into Wuhan.

Comment by Norman Borlaug on Omicron Variant Post #1: We’re F***ed, It’s Never Over · 2021-11-28T19:30:15.880Z · LW · GW

That website covariants.org is amazing. I've been looking for something like that for so long.

Comment by Norman Borlaug on Omicron Variant Post #1: We’re F***ed, It’s Never Over · 2021-11-28T19:27:18.523Z · LW · GW

I think you are likely underweighting the possibility that Omicron could significantly decrease vaccine efficacy.

Omicron has 50 mutations including 30 in the spike protein. I believe Delta had 9. https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1464410605402480641
 

https://twitter.com/MichaelWorobey/status/1464325657861574659

"The B.1.1.529 (omicron) Spike looks a whole lot like a 'polymutant' Spike experimentally generated to evade antibody responses from infection or vaccination, as noted by @theodora_nyc

And at long last, here's the tweet I read two days ago and have been looking for ever since. https://twitter.com/theodora_nyc/status/1464257411582148608

> "I wish I was as optimistic @jbloom_lab Our polymutant spike has 20 aa substitutions and is almost completely resistant to neutralization by almost all vaccinated and convalescent plasma we tested. This new one has more in overlapping regions."

I don't have a great method for estimating exactly how effective existing vaccines will be against symptomatic infection but I'd give 95% odds they perform worse against Omicran than Delta. If I had to give a point estimate, I'd guess that your protection against symptomatic infection by this variant from being triple vaxxed will be 40%. But my error bars are very wide: a 95% confidence interval from 10% protection to 90%.

On a side note: it's pretty scary to me that scientists are running experiments where they mutate coronaviruses to specically evade vaccines. Haven't we learned our lesson here from the experiments that were going on in Wuhan? Even if the lab leak theory turns out to be false (which is looking less likely every month), it's very clear that these experiments have tremendous potential to do harm. Why are we still doing this? It just seems totally nuts to me.

I'm going to put on my tinfoil hat here for a second: what are the odds that Omicron was created by a lab doing experiments on SARS-CoV-2? I keep going back to that tweet from Michael Woroby: 

> "The B.1.1.529 (omicron) Spike looks a whole lot like a 'polymutant' Spike experimentally generated to evade antibody responses from infection or vaccination"

If the spike looks a lot like one that was experimentally generated to evade antibody responses, what are the odds that Omicron was created through such experiments? How many labs are doing the types of experiments that are being done at Theodora's lab? If the number is high enough it seems likely that there will be a leak at some point given what we know about the history of such incidents at even the highest BSL facilities. Anyone have thoughts about how to more rigorously constrain the odds that this variant was accidentally released from a lab doing gain of function research?

Comment by Norman Borlaug on Omicron Variant Post #1: We’re F***ed, It’s Never Over · 2021-11-28T18:45:14.839Z · LW · GW

The link is working for me, though the markdown you used isn't formatting the way it is supposed to.

So if I understand correctly, Moderna gave a third dose of either the B.1.351 variant shot or the original 1273 shot to patients and found that those given the B.1.351 shot had higher levels of neutralizing antibodies against the variant?

This seems to suggest that we could do strain specific boosters against COVID. I suspect that would be particularly true for Omicron since it has so much more antigenic drift than the other variants.

Comment by Norman Borlaug on Omicron Variant Post #1: We’re F***ed, It’s Never Over · 2021-11-28T18:36:49.989Z · LW · GW

Probably for the same reason they downplayed the drop in vaccine efficacy from Delta: they didn't want to increase vaccine hesitancy.

Comment by Norman Borlaug on Paxlovid Remains Illegal: 11/24 Update · 2021-11-26T00:59:39.116Z · LW · GW

What do you think of this new South African variant that seems to be massively out-competing Delta?

https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1463956686075580421

Comment by Norman Borlaug on Discussion with Eliezer Yudkowsky on AGI interventions · 2021-11-25T00:18:42.181Z · LW · GW

Personally, I don't think I see that you can turn an ML system that has say 50-to-250 percent of a human's intelligence into an existential threat just by pushing the "turbo" button on the hardware. Which means that I'm kind of hoping nobody goes the "nuclear war" route in real life.

Isn't that part somewhat tautological? A sufficiently large group of humans is basically a superintelligence. We've basically terraformed the earth with cows and rice and cities and such. 

A computer with >100% human intelligence would be incredibly economically valuable (automate every job that can be done remotely?), so it seems very likely that people would make huge numbers of copies if the cost of running one was less than compensation for a human doing the same job. 

And that's basically your superintelligence: even if a low-level AGI can't directly self-improve (which seems somewhat doubtful since humans are currently improving computers at a reasonably fast rate), it could still reach superintelligence by being scaled from 1 to N.

Comment by Norman Borlaug on Covid 11/18: Paxlovid Remains Illegal · 2021-11-22T20:20:45.265Z · LW · GW

Looks like a new even closer wild relative of SARS-CoV-2 has been found: https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-covid-lab-leak-theory-just-got-even-stronger

Seems to me like this evidence increases the odds that the origin of the pandemic was a lab in Wuhan.  Anyone disagree?

Also, I really hate the FDA. Every month brings a new reason to hate them even more. The bureaucratic death machine continues to slowly roll over a few thousand new people every month.

Comment by Norman Borlaug on Covid 8/19: Cracking the Booster · 2021-08-23T21:26:01.896Z · LW · GW

Is there any reason you don't provide positive tests per capita by region instead of positive test by region? Seems like the former would be more useful for comparison purposes.