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I agree absolutely - however the effect wanes. I found the behavior would go extinct maybe a week or so after a 20 minute session of doing this. Reading this has inspired me to do the straightforward thing and just practice weekly.
Currently at level 4, Sydney RSL
Just show up! Only one guy bites, you'll be warned about him. Strongly suggest you join the FB group in case you get lost though - http://www.facebook.com/groups/219526434802422/
I'm going to start using this article as a kicking off point for new people to "get" less wrong...
Oh oh oh and as always, look up "Less wrong - Sydney" on FB. PM me if you can't find it. If you don't have FB, PM your email and we'll keep you posted.
I was told around 4 or more? We had ~7 people last meeting so I don't see why it would not work. Partially the "other games" bit is because there is an upper limit of how many people can play, so we need to have side activities!
As you enter look for a white sign on the table and a guy in a red tie
Last time we did - and we will probably have some short follow up.
I'm wearing a blue tie, white shirt and have an IPad propped up with the less wrong logo
Should be worth noting that what I thought was the James squire brewhouse is the king street brewhouse, identifiable by numerous blue umbrellas with the blue tounge logo. I'm here now. Also, of anyone could confirm the existence of the "James squire brewhouse, I would be interested.
It is today- I should have specified.
Aside from google, and searching on this website, life hacker and reddit are possible sources of information...
Well hopefully we get the momentum!
Proposing to change the time to day before this (Family reasons). Any objections?
We are all lurkers at some point. DW about it.
neither was really all that interesting, in that I don't see an opportunity to learn from them (Out of control perhaps?). From the perspective of "what I really would have liked to have figured out earlier", not getting obsessed with measures versus guides is what I saw as most pertinent.
EDIT: Looking over it again, there really is a whole bunch of general phooey and borderline woo here. Unrestrained pattern droppings is a regular issue for me, but this is a pretty bad.
Waking up: I found brute force works best - Old style alarm clock with clanging bells placed on opposite end of room. This trumped all sorts of complex maneuvers, including training self to have a fixed pattern response to an certain iPhone alarm.
Slight + 1 on that exercise clothes thing: I wear nice comfy track pants and a singlet to bed, and leave my sneakers at the foot of my bed in the morning. I don't even give myself the choice to put on the task specific clothing!
Cancel white jacket, we are sitting in corner
Do try. As said I will be there (and presumably at least one associate) regardless, If only to reinforce that I will attend regardless.
Probably worth noting that last time the majority of attendees where lurkers.
I'm liking this - A nice, practical rationality implementation technique.
In a broader sense, perhaps if one had the time, it might be good to have Agile, five forces and Business Generation Models on cards too. I'd posit those consulting-style problem frameworks would have more real world value if one could summon them for use with any given situation without the paper/screen aid.
Might try that cognitive bias stack first! (Am already carrying BGM frameworks in my notebook)
I'll admit my method is flawed, but the idea was closer to asking for something beyond what is expected without acting as if it is a huge request, treating it casually.
The "not saying please" thing struck me as a good method for ensuring it stayed casual but I can see that would probably come off as rude - politeness is surely a charachteristic of most productive behaviour.
I'm trying to work up a heuristic for dealing with this. For instance: if 2 minutes after consuming this product there is no benefit ,I mean ZERO benefit, avoid it. Like buying a soft drink over water - second I finish the can, I'll probably forget I ever had the the thing and my body is worse off. Same for most sitcoms in my opinion.
Probably worth noting it gets messy easily. I know I should avoid video games for long term goals, but frankly I savour some victories for a while If the challenge was decent and it makes me happier for some time. But the problem here is I generally won't know if the game was worth it until well after i've committed time and effort.
Mm. I'm afraid I still don't have the karma and not able to write at the moment (sleep deprived). However I'm all for expanding the idea, and will calenderise a date within the week to sit down for a write up. Take the points back, I suppose I'll PM you if this goes further.
I'll remeber that limits of consent phrase...
Wait, you can "lend" karma?
Perhaps alternate exercises could include:
Attempt to obtain odd or ridiculous requests from service providers without saying "please". I.e. Go to Mcdonalds and ask for "chips with no salt". Lacks same impact as calcsam's method though...
Better. Perhaps as an add on, how to get rid of junk profitably? Heuristics to identify you have something worth selling...
Wouldn't arbitrage sensing be closer to spotting the difference between markets, or seeing the signs of an inefficient market? I don't see how one could easily propose heuristics for a market's direction as opposed to it's position...
I cannot post yet, not enough karma. Although I suppose in principle the gist goes that a donkey led by the carrot instead of the stick is still a beast of burden.
A lot of consumer goods, especially the day time TV variety add no significant marginal benefit but still are marketed in a way that is exceptionally compelling - I believe that certain people barely have a rational choice to buy the product, its just that attractive. Especially toys. The systems are so well established to make people want things that it seems as if those systems are sometimes the entire value proposition.
Or in a more abstract sense, the way in which car companies have successfully convinced us that "badges" mean anything. I know people who are making big decisions based on something which seems to occupy the same head space as religion in terms of the way it compels through belief, and reinforces through society.
It sounds a bit too stereotypically anti-corporate, but I'm an enthusiastic business student and these things still seem worrisome. The first case provides no value and is straight up snake oil sometimes, and the second case Is the bad kind of value, the one created by pure inescapable and unspoken agreement.
I'll admit this is nothing like being compelled by arms into hard labour, and is not an amazingly well thought out opinion. But it's something.
I always wanted to write a book about "snake oil". I.E. Profitable practices based on misinformation, or in general profitable practices which only benefit one party without crossing a certain threshold of parasitism through force (i.e slavery)
Although the dangerous thought now occurs to me that perhaps people selling weight loss cures have their own form of enslavement in play...
I agree with Morendil's points. A few bits and pieces I've picked up about the purchase price:
Some dealership tactics: find out who advertises the cheapest price on your wanted model, then call up everyone else who has it. Chances are somebody will try and compete on the price, the dealers will shift a fair bit. usually upgrades are a poor investment, and might sometimes be used by dealers to try and cloud comparisons between other dealers. don't fall for it.
In Australia, I've found the "dealership test cars" are usually good value. You get pretty much all the guarantees of a new car but with some of the "shiny and not broken" new car premium taken off. I've seen at least one instance of an 11% discount on an otherwise perfect condition car.
As a new car buyer who doesn't know much about second hand cars, you would do really well to find something with some manufactures warranty left, ensuring most severe problems will not be a hindrance.
REALLY consider depreciation. Whatever your buying, see what an older model costs relative to the one your buying. This is usually a good gauge of future depreciation values (in my opinion, commodores and falcons have pretty good residual value simply because there's so much information available about past prices ad reliability in oz, being an oldish car)
if going second hand, see the car first inspect everything like hawk ensure you have comparable prices to know your not being shafted.
WARNING ANECDOTAL : I've seen a few guys in your situation go for oldish Mercedes and BMW models, it usually ends badly because of the maintenance costs despite whatever joy you get from the badge. You will be several times better off with a spanking near new corrolla.
Considering the interest, I'm Pre-committing to showing up at around 3:30 - 4, staying till 6.
As for habits, anyone used Rescue time robot? More importantly, used the produced stats to play a game as mentioned above? I'm going to try this as soon as the damn thing decides to tell me what I've been doing.
Certainly, thought rigor. I've been constantly testing every damn thing I do, be it research, leadership or what have you. What might have been a previous gut decision in work with groups now involves testing the motives of all involved, including myself, and being incredibly weary of any viewpoint that seems like a shortcut from myself or others.
The evaluation of others has certainly been improved- Predicting and rationalizing others behavior has become a lot easier (In at least one case allowing me to cherry pick co-workers for an assignment when I really should not have been able to), and I'd like to think I'm slowly working through and against general attribution bias.
Also, fear of failure/Want to get out there has reduced significantly, to the point where opportunities have come floating by every other day now. Unfortunately this has developed an acute Fear Of Missing Out, and I've reached the point where I need to cull responsibility... Too many unfinished projects and not enough time.
dang, I have work until 3 normally. Still, in my calender
It only occurred to me NOW to check if there was a Sydney meet up. Would hate to remain a lurker. Assuming ignorance, how does one keep promoting this?