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Comment by PobodyNerfect on Universal Basic Income and Poverty · 2024-08-02T22:27:17.452Z · LW · GW

New here. Forgive me. Must confess, feel the sense of emerging from a time warp that transfigured apples to apples, to apples to oxygen, for comparison sake. Not trying to ruffle feathers, step on toes, or be told to kick rocks, barefoot, but….

Oxygen is totally dissimilar to apples, making the task of comparison feel not unlike comparing spaghetti code to moms traditional recipe. Time, availability, space, and more - all dissimilarities of form - both in consumption and regeneration. In the interest of time, and for due consideration, therein, I will focus on consumption (?Time consumption?)

As a peasant from Irish peasant decent, I with great honor, skip meals regularly to feed my daughter; wouldn’t do that with oxygen. I even heard - some “elite men” ( :-/ ) do this for status, “toughness” (whatever that means) or other vain purpose - wouldn’t dare do that with oxygen. Is some sort of ungrounding, and re-grounding, to a conception of flattened time necessary for this hypothetical to produce fruit ripe for comparison? I’m probably missing something, or not yet up to speed.

To the premise, I agree that most value is relative, including the label ‘poverty’, and, that, the devolution of value systems, usually results in seeking distinction elsewhere. ice baths and bench press, or street creed on Crenshaw, seem two sides of the same coin. But, for better or worse, that same coin, brought, or bought, the beauty of romanticism. Maybe the throwedness into life as the child of a hippie misled me, but I believe in love! and without time can love exist, that is, “giving without the expectation of receiving”. That’s a huge loss, no?

Dovbt thou the stars are fire; dovbt truth to be a liar;

But don’t doubt, I love. Either/or. Friends?