Consider Trying Dictation

post by jefftk (jkaufman) · 2023-01-22T22:50:03.470Z · LW · GW · 10 comments

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I started using dictation for entering text on my phone and computer when my wrists suddenly went really bad, but while my wrists are enough better that I can often type there are still a lot of cases where I dictate. Even people whose wrists are fine would benefit from trying it out:

There are some downsides, however:

Still, I do think most people would benefit from trying it out, especially on the phone. It takes a little getting used to, but mostly you talk and it writes things down. On Android it's just a matter of tapping the little microphone on the on-screen keyboard:

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comment by romeostevensit · 2023-01-23T19:36:20.734Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

as you've noticed, spoken word tends to contain more redundancy, likely for assisting noise and attention issues on the part of listeners, which is why it translates a bit poorly to written. I find spoken best for generation and outlining, followed by editing.

comment by Lukas Trötzmüller (Lukas T) · 2023-01-23T12:16:50.648Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

I found that when using voice dictation, I can do journalling and diary-writing much better (versus when I type). My thoughts tend to go deeper, I get better access to my emotions and I tend to have more awareness. Especially when I sit in a comfortable place with my phone (or walk), being able to look around and lift my eyes off the screen.

comment by the gears to ascension (lahwran) · 2023-01-22T23:55:55.188Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

I use and love https://talonvoice.com/ on my desktop

comment by DirectedEvolution (AllAmericanBreakfast) · 2023-01-23T05:26:04.987Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

I suspect most people are not bottlenecked in their everyday work productivity by the power of their computer, but by their input and display devices and by ergonomics. When I bought my new laptop recently, I sacrificed $350 worth of power in exchange for:

  • A 17" laptop screen and a 17" portable second screen, each with a portable stand
  • A lightweight portable keyboard and mouse
  • A good backpack for carrying the computer around

For grad school, I work in many locations - home, the lab, class, flights, my girlfriend's house, my parents' house, her parents' house - and investing in a comfortable, portable computing interface has transformed my productivity.

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comment by romeostevensit · 2023-01-23T19:37:49.492Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

A folding laptop stand (nexstand) + keyboard and mouse worked well for me.

comment by Shmi (shminux) · 2023-01-23T00:50:29.298Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

I'm surprised that swiping on the phone is not more popular. All it takes is one thumb or finger and the speed is as good as with on-screen buttons, though you often trade typos for autocorrect errors.  Easy to switch if your main digit gets tired, too.

I don't like dictation because the error rate is higher (admittedly I have a foreign accent), and correction is cumbersome. If I need to say something, I can send a voice message, which most messaging platforms support natively.

None of these come close to the speed, accuracy and convenience of your regular touch typing.

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comment by the gears to ascension (lahwran) · 2023-01-23T06:27:59.985Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

it hurts my fingers badly. I use dictation when I can't use my hands.

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comment by Shmi (shminux) · 2023-01-23T07:38:02.656Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Yeah, I can see that. Probably does not work all that well for coding.

comment by mic (michael-chen) · 2023-01-23T06:29:41.227Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

What dictation tools are using the most advanced AI? I imagine that with newer models like Whisper, we're able to get higher accuracy than what the Android keyboard provides.

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comment by the gears to ascension (lahwran) · 2023-01-23T07:22:42.636Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

whisper is the strongest model I'm aware of being able to download, but it doesn't work great for real-time use or commands. talon is far better for configurable computer control and about as good as Android keyboard at dictation. there are commercial services even stronger than whisper.