Effective Effective Altruism Fundraising and Movement-Building

post by ChrisHallquist · 2014-03-28T21:05:09.726Z · LW · GW · Legacy · 7 comments

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The title of this post isn't a typo—its purpose is to ask how we can effectively do fundraising and movement-building for the effective altruism movement. This is an important question, because the return on these activities is potentially very high. As Robert Wiblin wrote on the topic of fundraising over a year ago:

GiveWell’s charity recommendations – currently Against Malaria Foundation, GiveDirectly and the Schistosomiasis Control Initiative – are generally regarded as the most reliable in their field. I imagine many readers here donate to these charities. This makes it all the more surprising that it should be pretty easy to start a charity more effective than any of them.

All you would need to do is found an organisation that fundraises for whoever GiveWell recommends, and raises more than a dollar with each dollar it receives. Is this hard? Probably not. As a general rule, a dollar spent on fundraising seems to raise at least several dollars.

Similarly, a more recent post at the 80,000 Hours blog asked "What cause is most effective?" and ended up concluding that "promoting effective altruism" was tied with "prioritization research" for the currently most effective cause. According to 80,000 Hours:

Promoting effective altruism is effective because it’s a flexible multiplier on the next most high-priority cause. It’s important because we expect the most high-priority areas to change a great deal, so it’s good to build up general capabilities to take the best opportunities as they are discovered. Moreover, in the recent past, investing in promoting effective altruism has resulted in significantly more resources being invested in the most high-priority areas, than investing in them directly. For instance, for every US$1 invested in GiveWell and Giving What We Can, more than $7 have been moved to high-priority interventions.

However, there are a number of questions to ask about this: for example, can we trust 80,000 Hours' estimates of the multiplier on giving to Give Well and GWWC? Might other organizations (such as the Centre for Effective Altruism, which is behind 80,000 Hours) be more effective at movement-building?

One interesting question is whether, from a movement-building perspective, it might make sense to (1) donate to an organization that both does movement building / cause-prioritization as well as making grants to object-level useful things (as GiveWell does) or (2) split your donation between an organization that does movement building and an organization that does object-level useful things. The rationale for this, particularly (2), is that donating exclusively to movement-building might not be the best thing for movement building, for a number of reasons:

  1. Donating exclusively to organizations focused on movement-building might hamper your ability to evangelize for effective altruism—people would quite justifiably be suspicious of an effective altruism movement that was too focused on movement-building.
  2. Similarly, from the point of view of the movement as a whole, people's justifiable suspicions of an EA movement too focused on movement building might lead to such a movement growing more slowly than an EA movement that was less focused on movement building.
  3. On why those suspicions on 1 and 2 are justified: even if an EA movement that was very focused on movement-building grew faster than one less focused on movement building, it could easily grow into the wrong kind of movement—one only good at self-promotion, not doing object-level useful things.
  4. Concrete successes by EA-backed charities may itself be very valuable for helping build the EA movement.
If splitting donations does make sense for reasons like these, then what should the ratio be? 50/50 is a tempting Schelling point. Another option would be to try to figure out the optimal ratio for the movement as a whole and make that your personal ratio. But other people may have better ideas on how to do such a split.

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comment by ChristianKl · 2014-03-29T12:17:02.835Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

How much money to spend on movement building depends a lot on room for funding.

Let's say you run a local EA meetup. If you have trouble finding a good room for the meetup, spending money on the room might be very useful. Spending the money to advertise the meetup on meetup.com is also going to have a very good return.

comment by Peter Wildeford (peter_hurford) · 2014-03-28T22:58:15.130Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Also, another consideration you haven't mentioned is the belief that focusing on improving the "product of EA" (e.g., quality of research, etc.) is better for movement building purposes than outright outreach. For example, Paul Christiano:

Sometimes “movement-building” is offered as an example of an activity with very high rates of returns. At the moment I am somewhat skeptical of these claims, and my suspicion is that it is more important for the “effective altruism” movement to have a fundamentally good product and to generally have our act together than for it to grow more rapidly, and I think one could also give a strong justification for prioritization research even if you were primarily interested in movement-building. But that is a much longer discussion.

This seems plausible to me, though I'm not completely convinced.

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comment by lincolnquirk · 2014-03-29T03:21:29.891Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

"Movement building" can mean a ton of things. I would actually like to taboo it since it's so broad. We should evaluate individual ideas on what they actually achieve.

Things that EA folks have done which seem like they might be "movement building" --

  • giving TED talks
  • running the EA camp at Burning Man
  • putting on the EA Summit
  • founding GiveWell
  • posting on the EA Facebook page
  • pledging to give 10% of income

you see, these things are all quite different...

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comment by jefftk (jkaufman) · 2014-03-30T03:46:03.553Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

A few more examples of movement building:

  • Hosting/attending meetups
  • Writing blogposts
  • Getting media coverage
  • Coining terms
  • Introducing people to each other
  • Drawing Jack Chick-style pamphlets and handing them out on street corners
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comment by [deleted] · 2015-07-13T04:06:06.864Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

It's a shame that none of this movement building discussion relates to strategy, only to tactics. If you believe The Movement Action Plan model for movement building, then that's literally a recipe for disaster. Strategic movement building isn't hard, but it may be hard to implement when EA is such a decentralised heterogeneous movement. That doesn't mean doctrines can't be produced for EA's to adopt if they so choose.

Movement building strategising templates are available here

See the headings:

  • critical path analysis

  • cutting the issue

  • power mapping

  • problem tree analysis

These tools can be be supplemented with tools designed for strategising in multiagent environments. See the periodic table of strategy.

Without strategy it might be hard to identify counterintuitive movement tactics that make a lot of sense in light of overall movement goals. To illustrate, different libertarian philosophies would advocate it more strategic for libertarians to join the Australian Labor Party (anti-libertarian, socialist party), Australian Liberal Party (conservative party with libertarian influence), the Australian Greens Party (consequentialist green party) or the Australian Liberal Democrats (deontologically libertarian party) or the Australian Sex Party (consequentialism libertarian party) where the Australian labor party and the Australian liberal party are the 2 dominant parties and either of them wins elections in coaliation or alliance with other parties and their is preferential run off voting.

comment by Peter Wildeford (peter_hurford) · 2014-03-28T22:56:58.832Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

for example, can we trust 80,000 Hours' estimates of the multiplier on giving to Give Well and GWWC? Might other organizations (such as the Centre for Effective Altruism, which is behind 80,000 Hours) be more effective at movement-building?

I'm pretty sure that 80K believes that a donation to CEA is the best for movement building.

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comment by ChrisHallquist · 2014-03-29T04:08:30.117Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Presumably. The question is whether we should accept that belief of theirs.