Robin Hanson & Liron Shapira Debate AI X-Risk

post by Liron · 2024-07-08T21:45:40.609Z · LW · GW · 4 comments

This is a link post for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTQb6N3_zu8

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Robin and I just had an interesting 2-hour AI doom debate. We picked up where the Hanson-Yudkowsky Foom Debate [? · GW] left off in 2008, revisiting key arguments in the light of recent AI advances.

A video thumbnail with the text "AI Doom Debate" and side-by-side photos of Robin Hanson and Liron Shapira

My position is similar to Eliezer's: P(doom) on the order of 50%.

Robin's position remains shockingly different: P(doom) < 1%.

I think we managed to illuminate some of our cruxes of disagreement, though by no means all. Let us know your thoughts and feedback!

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For most casually-interested readers, I recommend consuming the debate via my debate highlights and analysis [LW · GW] post, which has a clean transcript and its own video podcast to go with it.

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comment by Nathan Helm-Burger (nathan-helm-burger) · 2024-07-16T20:25:10.014Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

I think the description of this effect in this paper is a bit silly, kinda hyped up, but I also think that Robin's take on cultural accumulation is similarly kinda silly... So, they seem suited for each other.

https://arxiv.org/abs/2406.00392

comment by RobertM (T3t) · 2024-07-09T04:03:37.157Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

FYI the transcript is quite difficult to read, both because of the formatting (it's embedded in a video player, isn't annotated with speaker info, and punctuation is unsolved), and because it's just not very good at accurately transcribing what was said.

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↑ comment by Liron · 2024-07-10T01:34:15.164Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Here's a better transcript hopefully: https://share.descript.com/view/yfASo1J11e0

I updated the link in the post.

↑ comment by Liron · 2024-07-09T04:39:05.271Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Thanks I’ll look into that. Maybe try the transcript generated by YouTube?