On first looking into Russell's History

post by Richard_Ngo (ricraz) · 2018-11-08T11:20:00.935Z · LW · GW · 6 comments

This is a link post for http://thinkingcomplete.blogspot.com/2018/08/on-first-looking-into-russells-history.html

Notes from Bertrand Russell's History of Western Philosophy, in particular the sections on ancient philosophy and theology.

I also made a rough diagram of the flow of intellectual influence through the ages - again focusing on ancient philosophers, but with a few modern ones thrown in when there was a particularly strong link. Philosophers most associated with one big idea or virtue have it noted beneath them. The graph is surprisingly neat (and planar!), no doubt because I've simplified a lot of relationships and overlooked many more - don't interpret this as anything more than an outline.

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comment by Said Achmiz (SaidAchmiz) · 2018-11-08T20:58:06.465Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Interesting!

I made a high-quality vector version of the graph:

Graph of philosophers

(Also available in PDF and JPEG formats.)

comment by habryka (habryka4) · 2018-11-08T22:10:52.262Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Luke in his "best textbooks on every subject [LW · GW]" post calls out the book as inaccurate, with a link to this post (only available on archive). (I don't have any strong opinions on this, but figured that this might be useful context)

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comment by Richard_Ngo (ricraz) · 2018-11-09T17:50:15.259Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

I also don't have strong opinions on how accurate the book is, but that link really doesn't support the claim that the book is inaccurate. Its most scathing criticism of Russell: "As far as the omissions go, the grossest is the denial of any role to Eastern philosophy." Something I'm inclined to forgive in a "History of Western Philosophy". Then there are complaints about "inconsequential logical griping...from place to place" in the book, which again is not really a devastating blow.

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comment by Said Achmiz (SaidAchmiz) · 2018-11-09T19:20:31.706Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

I was going to post this also. I was expecting much more specific and pointed accuracy critiques, but the linked review mostly seems to grouse about emphasis.

comment by Richard_Kennaway · 2018-11-08T18:23:19.283Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
during the Mecca bean Revolt

Dictating to a speech recogniser? ITYM the Maccabean Revolt.

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comment by Richard_Ngo (ricraz) · 2018-11-09T17:42:58.549Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Cheers, fixed. Just autocorrect being autocorrect as per.