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post by XiXiDu · 2011-01-26T11:35:25.736Z · LW · GW · Legacy · 25 commentsContents
ETA ETA #2 This is a bug, don't punish people with downvotes for publishing their unfinished drafts. None 25 comments
If I click "Save and continue" -- should it publish the post?
ETA
Yes it published it. And only afterwards the drop-down list with an option "Drafts for XiXiDu" appeared.
ETA #2
This is a bug, don't punish people with downvotes for publishing their unfinished drafts.
People don't expect their draft to be published when they click "Save and continue" if there is a "Submit" button.
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comment by mwengler · 2011-01-28T00:39:57.552Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
This is a bug, how can you call it anything else?
If no one wants to take the time to fix "save and continue" so it does what it should, then perhaps someone could take the time to remove the "save and continue" button from discussion posts edit window. Then submit is actually listed as the only choice, which is rational since it is the only choice.
comment by lukeprog · 2011-01-26T16:26:12.764Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
Yeah, that confused the hell out of me when I published my first discussion item, which I immediately deleted once I realized it had been published, unfinished, to the discussion section!
Replies from: thre3e↑ comment by thre3e · 2011-07-15T19:57:44.850Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
You seem to know about this site. I need help. I posted an article. It is in the draft section. It appears on my computer in the 'recent posts" list, but on no other computer. It is called "To Speak Veripoop." Any ideas? Thanks
Replies from: Alicorn↑ comment by Alicorn · 2011-07-15T20:08:15.916Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
Go into the editing screen for your article. In the dropdown menu labeled "Post To", select "LessWrong Discussion". (You don't seem to have enough karma to post to Main, but unless I misremember, 1 karma is enough for Discussion.) Then click "submit".
Replies from: KPier↑ comment by KPier · 2011-07-17T00:01:15.258Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
The about page says you need two. thre3e might want to introduce eirself on the Welcome page; that should earn em enough karma for a discussion post.
comment by Vaniver · 2011-01-28T15:57:28.624Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
The real problem is that if you "Create new article" from the main section, you have all three options- LW main, LW discussion, and draft. If you "Create new article" from discussion, the only option (as you point out) is posting it to Discussion. Just fixing that should be sufficient to have people posting unfinished articles to drafts.
comment by Normal_Anomaly · 2011-01-26T12:48:15.075Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
That's annoying, but it explains the recent rash of incomplete posts. I recommend creating posts in Microsoft Word and uploading them when they're done.
Replies from: benelliott, SilasBarta↑ comment by benelliott · 2011-01-26T16:14:38.177Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
I tried this and the formatting came out all wrong. Does anyone know what font I should use if I want it to look normal?
Replies from: saturn, anonym↑ comment by saturn · 2011-01-26T18:28:24.757Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
Use a plain text editor (like notepad), or alternatively, use Word and then after you've pasted your text into the box, select all and then click the remove formatting button, 4th from the right. (I've never tried the second option but I think it would work.)
Replies from: benelliott, Unnamed↑ comment by benelliott · 2011-01-26T18:53:00.561Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
Thanks.
↑ comment by anonym · 2011-01-26T16:35:40.817Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
The lesswrong css setting for body font is "Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" (first match). Pasting from MS Word is a bad idea though, because Word will paste all kinds of weird HTML markup into the post for any but the most trivial of documents.
Replies from: benelliott↑ comment by benelliott · 2011-01-26T16:46:12.630Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
I suppose its too much to hope that open office does better?
Replies from: None, anonym↑ comment by [deleted] · 2011-01-30T23:17:02.498Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
Open Office, Word etc are word processors - they're designed for formatting text, and so pretty much by definition they're going to include formatting markup. If you want to write plain text for elsewhere, use a text editor, like Notepad (if you're on Windows) or Vim, Emacs or Gedit (if you're on an operating system, rather than a virus-support program).
↑ comment by anonym · 2011-02-02T16:33:06.414Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
I agree with AndrewHickey that using a text editor is best.
If you are really averse to writing HTML by hand though, there is Amaya, which is a web editor/browser that should generate very clean HTML if you don't explicitly set style properties. I haven't used it for years though and can't easily install it on Linux, but anybody on Mac or Windows should be able to install it fairly easily.
↑ comment by SilasBarta · 2011-01-26T16:49:22.500Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
Thanks for the pointer, Clippy.
comment by jsalvatier · 2011-01-27T03:27:25.566Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
This explains much.
comment by Paul Crowley (ciphergoth) · 2011-04-17T13:35:27.397Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
Syntax test: X Kills Y!
comment by Vladimir_Nesov · 2011-01-26T12:16:18.376Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
Replied here:
Replies from: JoshuaZYes, this is unintuitive and a bug, you have to start writing articles from the main site to have an option of saving to Drafts, there is no such option in discussion area. But not working around this bug results in spurious articles appearing in the feed, hence it's a posting "by mistake", but the kind that can be avoided, and should be. This is the same kind of mistake as using HTML markup in comments - something that can be reasonably expected to work, but actually doesn't, so has to be taken into account before posting.
↑ comment by JoshuaZ · 2011-01-26T13:22:15.578Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
It doesn't seem the same as the HTML markup issue since there's no obvious way of finding this out unless one triggers the problem. Is there any documentation anywhere that this bug exists?
Replies from: Vladimir_Nesov↑ comment by Vladimir_Nesov · 2011-01-26T14:49:16.798Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
It was mentioned before, and if you posted to main area, you can notice the difference.
Replies from: JoshuaZ↑ comment by JoshuaZ · 2011-01-26T20:45:38.011Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
So you are advocating downvoting people because they have acted like the minimal documentation is accurate and haven't read every single post including a single post where a specific bug is mentioned?
Replies from: Vladimir_Nesov↑ comment by Vladimir_Nesov · 2011-01-26T21:39:21.786Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
Indication of bad consequences shouldn't take into account difficulty of avoiding them, indeed it should calibrate the expended effort (and as I wrote, it's possible to notice by comparing with article editor on the main site, or just by checking if the article got published after pressing a button, just in case).
Replies from: JoshuaZ↑ comment by JoshuaZ · 2011-01-26T21:41:19.078Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
You seem to be engaging in massive hindsight bias. You are expecting a large amount of effort be made to deal with an unlikely situation. Do you engage in that level of investigation in looking for bugs whenever you join a website you haven't previously been involved in?
Replies from: Vladimir_Nesov↑ comment by Vladimir_Nesov · 2011-01-26T22:03:00.724Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
If I post globally, I would, at least would prefer to. I don't post enough on popular sites to have a track record for this particular reference class, but I do make an effort to take seriously unlikely risks with nontrivial consequences that are trivial to avoid.