You should just smile at strangers a lot

post by chaosmage · 2023-09-25T20:12:56.907Z · LW · GW · 10 comments

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This is so basic I feel stupid for saying it in such an intellectual place. But most of you guys share my enthusiasm for effective altruism, and here's something really altruistic and really effective that I've been doing for two decades and I think lots of you should do too.

Just smile at strangers. Walk down the street with a default smile on your face, seek eye contact and just keep smiling. You don't need to do anything else, not talk to them or anything.

This is tiny, but it's a pretty unadulterated good thing. Facial feedback research is clear, smiling does make you feel better. It costs basically nothing, and definitely less than you get back in good feelings for yourself. It's a quality of life improvement for everyone involved.

After what has to be hundreds of thousands of such micro-interactions, I can report that nearly half of the strangers will smile back, although often they'll look away as they do. This is probably highly dependent on the culture where you do this, especially on whether it is a high-trust environment.

I have learned not to smile at beggars, though. They usually took it as an invitation to target and haggle me.

To be fair, I'm a male and I don't know if a female doing this would get very different reactions. Maybe some of you want to try it and report back?

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comment by jefftk (jkaufman) · 2023-09-25T20:28:35.748Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Smiling is communication. The information content of a message is inversely proportional to its probability. If you smile at strangers in places or situations where that's very unusual, you're communicating pretty strongly, and not necessarily what you intend to communicate.

For example, I live in a part of the world (Northeast US) where the culture is to leave strangers alone. You don't talk to them, smile at them, etc; everyone just does their own thing. If someone here smiled at me out of nowhere, my first reaction would be trying to figure out where I knew this person from, and I'd probably smile back to be polite. Then if they moved on and I really didn't know them I might wonder why they had smiled at me; were they flirting? Visiting from out of town and didn't know the customs? On drugs? Indicating support for something I'm signaling with my appearance or attire?

I can report that nearly half of the strangers will smile back, although often they'll look away as they do.

I'm not sure that's as positive as it sounds? The "look away" part seems to me like it's indicating discomfort, or that they're worried returning your smile will escalate the interaction.

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comment by Bezzi · 2023-09-26T21:22:57.415Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

I have a similar feeling... receiving a full-face smile out of the blue from a total stranger is vaguely creepy

comment by Jiro · 2023-09-27T23:49:31.157Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Smiling is communication. The information content of a message is inversely proportional to its probability. If you smile at strangers in places or situations where that’s very unusual, you’re communicating pretty strongly, and not necessarily what you intend to communicate.

This is of course correct.

The initial post seems like a geek fallacy: that you can just logically analyze social skills and come up with the optimum way to do social things as a workaround to not understanding social skills the normal way. This pretty much always fails, because analyzing social skills to enough level of detail that you can actually do that is really difficult. Couple with the tendency of "rationalists" to take one idea and follow it as far as they can without sanity-checking it or applying Chesterton's fence, and you get disaster.

comment by Said Achmiz (SaidAchmiz) · 2023-09-25T20:35:51.794Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Two questions:

  1. How many people have you asked about whether they like it when strangers smile at them, and what has been the breakdown of responses?

  2. Where do you live?

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comment by chaosmage · 2023-09-26T04:52:10.198Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
  1. None
  2. Leipzig, Germany
comment by nim · 2023-09-25T21:23:45.568Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

I'm a female in the PNW area and notice roughly the same reaction that you describe. I don't smile at absolutely everyone -- I limit it to contexts where it seems unlikely to oblige either party to have additional interactions, although that's still a lot of opportunities. I find that a full-face smile, including the eyes, communicates just fine even in settings where I wear a mask. Then again, my results may be unusual because I present as relatively threatening/intimidating -- I have a family member around my age who gets unwanted conversations routinely even without smiling at people. She is shorter, curvier, better at makeup / generally more normal-woman-presenting, and more agreeable than I am -- I'm not sure which combo of traits is playing into the difference in response. So I'd say that "smile at people more" is safe advice for some-but-not-all women, with who's who being probably determined by nuanced and multivariate factors.

My personal social script for making small talk a more positive experience when I have some superficial interaction with someone, often cashiers when shopping, is to compliment a choice the person has made that day/week. Complimenting something they can't choose (eyes, height, certain bodily proportions, etc) is generally creepy; complimenting a choice they made a long time ago (piercings, tattoos) is hit-or miss; complimenting a small decision that's clearly a recent choice is almost universally a safe positive.

Similarly, shy people can have an easier time making positive small talk with you if you give them something safe to compliment. Accessorizing beyond the absolute minimum, or wearing an outfit that shows you chose it on purpose, gives people who want to say something nice to you an invitation to remark on it.

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comment by Sea · 2023-09-26T20:41:04.208Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

shy people can have an easier time making positive small talk with you if you give them something safe to compliment

Huh, that's a great justification for wearing accessories!

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comment by nim · 2023-09-26T23:08:18.797Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Thanks! Bonus points for selecting accessories more likely to catch the eye of the particular sort of shy humans you'd like to invite polite remarks from =)

comment by Gordon Seidoh Worley (gworley) · 2023-09-26T00:03:34.293Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Full on smile seems like a bit much as others are suggesting, but I have seen clear benefits from something a bit more subdued.

Your neutral expression can be more or less smily. To be slightly frowny or straight neutral usually requires a slight contraction of the jaw muscles. To be very subtly smiling you just have to relax them. You won't look like you're smiling, but people will notice that you're relaxed, and then how they treat you reflects how you being relaxed makes them feel about you, which is generally for the best (unless a situation calls for you to be not relaxed!).

comment by Shmi (shminux) · 2023-09-25T22:06:43.489Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

FTFY: "Smile at strangers iff it has non-negative EV, because smiling is cheap and sometimes it does".