Comment by aristide-twain on Duplication versus probability · 2018-06-24T12:51:25.489Z · score: 2 (1 votes) · LW · GW

For what end? Because remember, the point of my munchkinry was to make sure no sentient individual (in this case a version of you) would die. Creating an army up there may have its uses but does nothing to achieve this goal. Unless you are proposing the army make a human ladder? Not only does this seem needlessly convoluted, but we have no confirmation that it creates more than "a" duplicate of you as the original text stated.

Comment by aristide-twain on Wirehead your Chickens · 2018-06-20T16:55:24.418Z · score: 14 (5 votes) · LW · GW

But you make it sound as though these people are objectively “wrong”, as if they're *trying* to actually reduce animal suffering in the absolute but end up working on the human proxy because of a bias. That may be true of some, but surely not all. What ozymandias was, I believe, trying to express, is that some of the people who'd reject your solutions consciously find them ethically unacceptable, not merely recoil from them because they'd *instinctively* be against their being used on humans.

Comment by aristide-twain on Duplication versus probability · 2018-06-20T16:39:25.100Z · score: 7 (4 votes) · LW · GW

Being a hopeless munchkin, I will note that the thought experiment has an obvious loophole: for the choice to truly be a choice, we would have to assume, somewhat arbitrarily, that using the duplication lever will disintegrate the machinery. Else, you could pull the lever to create a duplicate who'll deliver the message, and *then* the you at the bottom of the well could rip up the machinery and take their shot at climbing up.