[META] Karma, its positive and negative component
post by Thomas · 2012-01-25T21:31:05.607Z · LW · GW · Legacy · 22 commentsContents
22 comments
I'd like to see, beside the cumulative karma as it is now, also its analytic. Does my 0 points somewhere means no upvotes and no downvotes or +7 and -7, for example?
A timeline graph would also be appreciated.
22 comments
Comments sorted by top scores.
comment by NancyLebovitz · 2012-01-26T09:29:57.854Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
I'd like to see recent karma changes for my comments and posts.
Replies from: TimScomment by Grognor · 2012-01-26T15:06:03.620Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
I've been clamoring to see the upvotes and downvotes for comments since the beginning.
I've never seen a case for the current system as opposed to the more informative system.
I'm tired of the lack of acknowledgement that this position even exists, but I don't see that ever changing.
Replies from: lukeprog, thomblake↑ comment by thomblake · 2012-01-26T17:20:21.441Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
This has been on the issues list forever.
comment by [deleted] · 2012-01-25T21:36:02.358Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
Also, can we change things to only show votes for our own posts? Vote being visible is too much priming that leads to too much hivemind.
Replies from: falenas108, Unnamed, thomblake, faul_sname↑ comment by falenas108 · 2012-01-25T23:08:35.353Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
Although it does cause some hiveminding, I like that the votes are visible to everyone. Many times I'm just skimming past comments, and if I see a +20 I know the person probably said something important, whereas otherwise I might have skipped over it.
Replies from: faul_sname↑ comment by faul_sname · 2012-01-26T00:32:18.364Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
Though, as a general rule, we probably shouldn't upvote comments found in this way.
Edit: and this comment is a perfect example of why we shouldn't. Ironically.
↑ comment by Unnamed · 2012-01-26T02:49:39.257Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
There's a Less Wrong anti-kibitzer which you can install in your browser to hide that info.
↑ comment by faul_sname · 2012-01-25T22:38:41.299Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
Yes, great comment. I knew it would be good as soon as I say that it was rated +2.
Seriously, though, showing votes for only your own posts would probably be a large improvement. Why are votes even visible? Make it so we still can have a comment rating threshold, but can't see karma otherwise.
Replies from: Normal_Anomaly↑ comment by Normal_Anomaly · 2012-01-28T19:06:10.526Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
The anti-kibitzer will do that, though it also hides poster names (which I felt was preventing me from getting to know anyone). It's accessible from your account settings.
(Edited for politer tone)
Replies from: faul_sname↑ comment by faul_sname · 2012-01-29T07:31:58.222Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
Awesome. Thank you.
comment by Bogomilist · 2012-01-25T22:55:08.982Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
It's somewhat annoying that I can't post until I get karma.
Replies from: Emile, FAWS, faul_sname↑ comment by Emile · 2012-01-25T22:58:29.303Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
But do you find it annoying that other people can't post until they get karma? Do you wish there were more top-level posts by people with no karma?
(or, to make even more of a leading question, do you wish that new people who had an idea for a post but no karma didn't lurk and comment for a week or two before showing their idea?)
↑ comment by FAWS · 2012-01-25T23:58:00.746Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
By posting a comment in the welcome thread you can pretty reliably get enough karma to post in the discussion section.
Replies from: Bogomilist↑ comment by Bogomilist · 2012-01-26T01:08:15.655Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
That was helpful, thanks! That would have been difficult for me to find otherwise.
↑ comment by faul_sname · 2012-01-25T23:45:47.911Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
One word: spambots.
Replies from: Viliam_Bur↑ comment by Viliam_Bur · 2012-01-26T09:58:21.395Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
Maybe we could use the same mechanism to protect LW wiki from spambots. The wiki registration page would be available only to people with karma at least... well, 1 should be enough. Reaching karma 1 should be trivial for any LW member, and pretty difficult for a generic spambot.
Replies from: MixedNuts, Normal_Anomaly↑ comment by Normal_Anomaly · 2012-01-28T19:05:08.675Z · LW(p) · GW(p)
I support this enough to make a comment in addition to upvoting. Whenever I check the wiki's recent changes page, way too many of the recent changes are spambots creating accounts or Vladimir_Nesov killing them. As MixedNuts points out, the code end is difficult, but the fix would be highly appreciated.