DPiepgrass's Shortforms

The Hidden-Motte-And-Bailey fallacy: belief in a Bailey inspires someone to invent a Motte and write an article about it. The opinion piece describes the Motte exclusively with no mention of the Bailey. Others read it and nod along happily because it supports their cherished Bailey, and finally they share it with others in an effort to help promote the Bailey.

Example: Christian philosopher describes new argument for the existence of a higher-order-infinity God which bears no resemblance to any Abrahamic God, and which no one before the 20th century had ever conceived of.

Maybe the Motte is strong, maybe it isn't, but it feels very strong when combined with the Gish Fallacy: the feeling of safety some people (apparently) get by collecting large numbers of claims and arguments, whether or not they routinely toss them out as Gish Gallops at anyone who disagrees. The Gish Fallacy seems to be the opposite of the mathematician's mindset, for mathematicians know that a single flaw can destroy proofs of any length. While the mathematician is satisfied by a single a short and succinct proof or disproof, the Gish mindset wishes to read a thousand different descriptions of three dozen arguments, with another thousand pithy rejections of their counterarguments, so they're thoroughly prepared to dismiss the evil arguments of the enemies of truth―or, if the enemy made a good point, there are still 999 articles supporting their view, and more where that came from!

Example: my dad

I have a feature request for LessWrong. It's the same as my feature request for every site: you should be able to search within a user (i.e. visit a user page and begin a search from there). This should be easy to do technically; you just have to add the author's name as one of the words in the search index. And in terms of UI, I think you could just link to https://www.lesswrong.com/search?query=@author:username [? · GW].

Preferably do it in such a way that a normal post cannot do the same, e.g. if "foo authored this post" is placed in the index as @author:foo, if a normal post contains the text @author:foo then perhaps the index only ends up with @author (or author) and foo, while the full string is not in the index (or, if it is in the index, can only be found by searching with quotes a la Google: "@author:foo"

P.S. we really should be able to search by date range, too. I'm looking for something posted by Yudkowsky at some point before 2010... and surely this is not an unusual thing to want to search for.

I wrote a long comment and someone took the "strong downvote, no disagreement, no reply" tack again. Poppy-cutters^[1] seem way more common at LessWrong than I could've predicted, and I'd like to see statistics to see how common they are, and to see whether my experience here is normal or not.

1. ^{^}

   Meaning users who just seem to want to make others feel bad about their opinion, especially unconstructively. Interesting statistics might include the distributions of users who strong-downvote a positive score into a negative one (as compared to their other voting behaviors), who downvote more than they disagree, who downvote more than they upvote, who strong-downvote more than they downvote, and/or strong-downvote more often than they reply. Also: is there an 80/20 rule like "20% of the people do 80% of the downvotes"? Is the distribution different for "power users" than "casual users"?