Your favorite pdfs?

post by Solvent · 2011-09-18T11:18:38.184Z · LW · GW · Legacy · 30 comments

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I just got an iPad, which means that for the first time in my life it's convenient for me to read long documents from the internet. I've often looked at things and thought, oh, if I ever have some capability to read that, I should. However, I haven't made a list.

So. What documents in pdf form, or long websites, should I read now that I can? Any recommendations?

 

EDIT: Thanks for the advice. I'm particularly excited to read Godel, Escher, Bach. I've also downloaded the ePub of the Sequences, and I'm going to certainly look at Strategy of Conflict. Thank you very much for the links.

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comment by __Emil__ · 2011-09-18T15:40:17.152Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

ciphergoth has made an epub version of Eliezer's posts, which can be read with iBooks on the iPad (or iPhone, iPod Touch). I would recommend this over a PDF version, as you cannot adjust line lengths with PDFs. I've been reading the sequences in this way recently. Before discovering this, I used the Instapaper app to save the LW web pages.

comment by lessdazed · 2011-09-18T14:23:07.854Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Appropriate for this forum: Why Philosophers Should Care About Computational Complexity by Scott Aaronson

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comment by [deleted] · 2011-09-18T17:34:00.039Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Ugh. If you're going to read that, perhaps also read the other papers mentioned here: < http://stellar.mit.edu/S/course/6/fa11/6.893/index.html >.

comment by billswift · 2011-09-18T16:04:02.461Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Computer Science, including AI - University of Cambridge Computer Lab Tech Reports http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/techreports/UCAM-CL-TR-table.html

http://www.e-booksdirectory.com/

http://www.intechopen.com/books and http://www.intechopen.com/journals

And National Academies Press - http://www.nap.edu

You will find lots of interesting books, no matter what your specific interests are.

comment by jaimeastorga2000 · 2011-09-18T18:48:47.339Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

If you go to 4shared, you can find a lot of PDF books that have seen prominent mentions or recommendations around here. For example:

Gödel, Escher, Bach
Probability Theory: The Logic of Science
The MIT Encyclopedia of the Cognitive Sciences
How the Mind Works
The Nature of Rationality
Good and Real
The Strategy of Conflict

You can also take a look at Bostrom's or Hanson's papers, or at SIAI's list of publications. They are pretty interesting.

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comment by Solvent · 2011-09-18T22:42:15.513Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Thank you so much for that list. GEB has been on my to-read list for ages.

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comment by jaimeastorga2000 · 2011-09-18T22:51:45.054Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Your welcome. Though, if you are going to read GEB, I think this DJVU has better formatting... does anybody know if there is a good DJVU reader for iPad?

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comment by Dr_Manhattan · 2011-09-19T14:34:39.891Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Convert it back to PDF...

comment by somervta · 2012-08-19T05:59:02.297Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Needs a password to download...

comment by [deleted] · 2012-03-01T09:12:47.688Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

The GEB pdf seems to have a lot of OCR errors. If anyone has read the pdf -- is it worth reading despite the errors?

The page with the DJVU is asking for a password.

comment by [deleted] · 2011-09-19T15:06:03.050Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

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comment by Eugine_Nier · 2011-09-18T18:10:02.997Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Thomas Schelling's "Strategy of Conflict". Pdf version here thanks to Alicorn.

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comment by Hyena · 2011-09-18T19:10:15.339Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

I loved this book in college, it was a major eye-opener for me.

comment by Hyena · 2011-09-18T13:53:29.063Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

First and foremost, textbooks. I cannot emphasize enough how useful the iPad is vis-a-vis reading on a computer for any long-form material. If you've been putting off sequences, now is a good time as well.

comment by Unnamed · 2011-09-19T01:23:29.102Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Several of Greg Egan's stories are available online for free.

If you're interested in long-form journalism, here's a list of recommendations for recent articles and here are some recommendations for classic articles.

comment by Vladimir_Nesov · 2011-09-18T11:44:29.653Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

I don't think posts like this should be appropriate even in Discussion.

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comment by Hyena · 2011-09-18T13:43:09.523Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

The appropriateness of the post depends entirely on the set of answers asked after. It is therefore incumbent on LessWrongians to answer with PDFs which are rationality-enhancing or which explore its associatd issues.

comment by TrE · 2011-09-18T13:44:47.701Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

I'm afraid you won't get an applause for this. What exactly was your intention in posting this? Do you want to show us that you have an iPad or do you really want to read pdfs and are too lazy to search for yourself? Be honest to yourself.

In any case, I'd suggest you read about Solomonoff Induction.

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comment by Hyena · 2011-09-18T15:56:49.627Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

I'm voting this down, as I suspect others are, for being uncharitable to the OP. Were this comment only about SI, it would be upvoted.

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comment by TrE · 2011-09-18T17:44:18.337Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Wow, negative 6 karma? I'm surprised. Obviously, I was deliberately rough when there's no reason for being rough. Maybe I did something wrong? Let me take a look at myself.

First of all, I dislike Apple, and I dislike people bragging about having a product from Apple. I could list plenty of reasons for this, but my reasons don't matter.

When I first read this discussion thread, the word "iPad" sprang to my eye quickly (it's the fifth word in the article, after all). That made my alarm bells ring and it promoted the hypothesis "this person wants to show off that they own an iPad". When I continued reading, I found more evidence for this (already and probably wrongfully promoted) hypothesis:

for the first time in my life it's convenient for me to read long documents from the internet. I've often looked at things and thought, oh, if I ever have some capability to read that, I should.

This read like what I'd expect from someone who wants to show the world that they own an Apple product. The message that reached me was roughly this: "An iPad is sooo useful for reading pdfs! Throw away those normal computers, it's so inconvenient to read pdfs with them!"

This conflicted with my experience: I don't find it inconvenient at all to read pdfs on a computer. What problems could one have with that? Why on earth should reading pdfs improve so dramatically with such a device?

This was to me evidence that this user in fact only wanted to show off, as well as the mere existence of this post: Finding recommendable pdfs is something I wouldn't say is difficult at all, just search lw for the topic you want to know something about. This was further evidence for the already promoted hypothesis, I came to the conclusion that this user probably really wasn't quite as much interested in pdfs but rather in some sort of online-"status".

Thusly, I wrote that pretty harsh comment.

The mass of negative Karma (and your comment), however, indicates that I indeed went wrong somewhere. Probably the OP in fact doesn't want to show off at all, and I was just unreasonable. I have to apologize.

That said, I want to know this: How does an iPad make reading long pdfs that much more convenient? Does it greatly improve productivity?

What about Apple products in general? Do I falsely believe that they're just overly expensive accessoires for showing high status without being more useful than other mobile phones (iPhone), multimedia devices (iPod), netbooks (iPad) and computers (Mac)?

And to talk about apple users, I obviously do falsely believe that most of them mainly buy such products to show high-status. I better revise this belief.

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comment by Alex_Altair · 2011-09-18T18:49:40.166Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

I would like to personally thank you for updating your beliefs.

comment by lessdazed · 2011-09-18T18:21:44.922Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

just overly expensive accessoires for showing high status

Beliefs that actions are just for one purpose are never correct because such explanations are all just too simple, absolutist and overly generalizing, period.

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comment by TrE · 2011-09-18T18:41:36.225Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Okay, my fault, let me rephrase the question so I can get an answer which is actually useful to me: Is the price for these devices justified? Are they so much more useful than other devices? How important is the aspect of showing high status to those who spend their money on an apple product?

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comment by lessdazed · 2011-09-18T18:55:00.131Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Is the price for these devices justified?

It's probably nearly optimal for the sellers, and much more than reasonable substitutes from the buyer's point of view.

Are they so much more useful than other devices?

No, they probably have moderately fewer features and greater ease of use.

How important is the aspect of showing high status to those who spend their money on an apple product?

Varies from person to person. Some people might give/get them as presents. Other people might get them as a courtesy for their longstanding investment in Apple, which they think is some kind of fruit company. You never know.

comment by NancyLebovitz · 2011-09-18T19:42:29.256Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

I hate pdfs. There's no way to make the pages fit the computer screen as conveniently as html does.

I have to keep moving my viewpoint in a way that jolts my attention.

Recently, instead of having a control bar for the pdf at the top of the page, there's a appear/fade away control bar which is affected by the cursor, and IT'S ON TOP OF THE TEXT.

Of course, I have no way of knowing whether any of this is why Solvent hasn't liked them.

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comment by Alicorn · 2011-09-18T19:45:47.285Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

Your second and third objections could possibly be resolved by choosing a different PDF reading software.

comment by michael61 · 2011-09-18T19:52:10.684Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

give mobipocket a try, with the annotation pane open very convenient for note taking/highlighting, been using this on a notebook with a pixel qi screen for a couple of months, user friendly combination hihttp://www.mobipocket.com/en/downloadsoft/productdetailsreader.asp http://www.pixelqi.com/

comment by Hyena · 2011-09-18T19:05:52.629Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

The iPad makes reading PDFs that much more convenient in somewhat less the measure the Kindle does. At current, there are two major devices (by market share) that people use for reading PDFs without a desk/laptop, the iPad and the Kindle. Because the two dominant devices are heavily branded and there are only two, people tend not to use a generic term like "tablet" or "reader". That may change over time; the other possibility is that one or both companies could find themselves fighting valiantly against genericide.

However, I see no reason to presume the OP is trying to signal status and no reason to engage in any discussion of Apple v. Alternative products in the context of this thread.

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comment by TrE · 2011-09-18T19:31:21.074Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

However, I see no reason to presume the OP is trying to signal status

As I said, I was wrong.

no reason to engage in any discussion of Apple v. Alternative products in the context of this thread

Well, in case there are huge benefits to productivity by using a reader, I want to know about it for obvious reasons. Other than that, anyone who can contribute useful information may do so in a reply to my comment, I don't see any problem with having such a sub-thread.

Thanks for the information on pdfs.

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comment by Hyena · 2011-09-18T20:48:52.873Z · LW(p) · GW(p)

That's why I upvoted your comment. ^_^

You must excuse the emote, I'm wasted.

Whether you get productivity benefits out of a reader depends on your habits. I have an iPad, I get huge benefits from it because I use it to read and browse but generally detest the games available. Mostly, it allows me to read in bed, on the bus or some other place I'm waiting. However, it also prevents me from feeding my gaming addiction.