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Occam’s Guillotine 2021-05-07T16:30:13.914Z
My Journey to the Dark Side 2021-05-06T00:27:26.895Z
Not Yet the Dawn 2021-02-15T04:00:12.103Z
Ice 2020-09-06T18:30:07.677Z
The Queen of the Damned 2020-06-22T04:50:02.730Z
The Devil You Know 2020-05-21T21:50:01.425Z
Song for a Red Planet 2020-05-15T05:30:02.575Z
A Brief Update on Updates 2020-04-27T17:30:02.288Z
Doors and Corners 2020-04-16T18:32:35.548Z
One Hundred Billion Children’s Sky 2020-04-14T16:33:48.512Z
The Samurai and the Daimyo: A Useful Dynamic? 2020-04-13T22:38:02.759Z
What is Your Goal Hive? 2020-04-13T17:51:16.071Z
Confessions of a Transhumanist: On Life in Known Space 2020-04-06T09:59:44.114Z
Kintsugi 2020-03-30T11:11:34.534Z
Occam's Guillotine 2020-03-23T07:31:30.344Z
Gods! Robots! Aliens! Zombies! 2020-03-16T18:08:29.496Z
Sleepwalking Toward Armageddon 2020-03-09T07:28:32.865Z
Even if your Voice Shakes 2020-03-06T18:04:07.279Z
Change Your Mind 2020-03-02T10:41:44.879Z
Time Binders 2020-02-24T09:55:55.672Z
Jan Bloch's Impossible War 2020-02-17T16:14:46.033Z

Comments

Comment by Hivewired on My Journey to the Dark Side · 2021-05-10T19:21:22.170Z · LW · GW

If I had to propose a model for this here, it's something like:

Ziz believes in the power of what you might call "Woke Twitter Leftism" as a force that will one day come to completely dominate society and sees her own ideological principles as the natural evolution/convergence point of those ideas. If you're a Woke Twitter Leftist and you legitimately believe the principles of Woke Twitter Leftism in your soul, you'll naturally come to embrace her ethical positions over time. She thinks that since "Cthulu swims left" her faction will gradually grow to dominate politically and the actions she takes that would seem to damage her credibility will become credibility boosting in that future. Her callout posts, her protests, the way she expresses disapproval, it's all clearly strategized to fit into the ideological pattern of twitter wokescolds and tumblr tenderqueers. The people she seems to be carelessly defecting against aren't the people she thinks will win the culture war and so the fact that she's damaging her credibility with them is irrelevant.

I think Ziz's belief in the power of this acausal coalition and the belief that it will actually win the culture war that we're currently embroiled in is the result of her rejecting necessity and refusing a gate. You can pretty clearly see where in her ideological theory this error is sitting and the canards she has to adopt to make it work. She thinks that most people are evil, but she still believes her tiny coalition of good-aligned people can shift the timeline which makes no sense. In order to support that, she has to adopt the completely unfounded belief that only good-aligned people can cooperate or use game theory and that nongood people will defect on each other too often to defeat her alliance. 

Comment by Hivewired on My Journey to the Dark Side · 2021-05-08T00:32:20.450Z · LW · GW

In case anyone is confused, I temporarily pulled this post to make some minor edits and when I re-published it on my blog it created a duplicate post here on LW. That post was up for a few hours before I realized what happened, did the edits on the LW version of the original post, and moved the repost into my drafts. I copied over all the comments from the repost into this thread except for the ones asking why there was the repost and everything should be fixed now. 

Comment by Hivewired on My Journey to the Dark Side · 2021-05-08T00:29:47.406Z · LW · GW

Pattern Replied:
'How do you know X isn't lying' is an isolated demand for rigor.

Raven Replied to Pattern:
I don't think so, ziz kind of has a reputation as a manipulator and lying tends to go hand in hand with that. It seems like a reasonable question to me.


 

Comment by Hivewired on My Journey to the Dark Side · 2021-05-08T00:28:35.718Z · LW · GW

Pattern Replied:
How does one go about making everyone vegan?

Comment by Hivewired on [deleted post] 2021-05-07T20:54:33.933Z

When I get home from work I'm going to fix the original post and delete this one, so this will just be up temporarily, if anyone makes new comments that aren't reposts from the old thread I'll copy them over before deleting.

Comment by Hivewired on [deleted post] 2021-05-07T20:46:08.977Z

That was an accident that has to do with the way it parses updates from WordPress. I had been asked to modify a few things for privacy protection so I moved the post on WordPress to private and moved the post here to my drafts pending edits, I edited the WordPress file on a break at work and moved it back to public and that apparently caused the LW RSS crawler to repost it.

Comment by Hivewired on My Journey to the Dark Side · 2021-05-06T23:39:34.690Z · LW · GW

I actually ran directly into this after I'd been on soylent for about a month and a half. I found myself feeling consistently awful in a way that had slowly built over time and when I bought myself something to eat that wasn't soylent I felt so much immensely better I just started crying in relief and from that I pretty much immediately knew I had done something to mess up my diet. I backed off the soylent pretty substantially after that. 

Comment by Hivewired on Song for a Red Planet · 2020-06-10T16:47:33.495Z · LW · GW

Not all filk is derived from existing folk songs, filk just means "science fiction folk" as far as I know.

Comment by Hivewired on Jan Bloch's Impossible War · 2020-04-07T23:43:28.497Z · LW · GW

I strongly disagree.

Comment by Hivewired on Jan Bloch's Impossible War · 2020-03-30T16:50:15.664Z · LW · GW

As long as we can include a link back to the original blog post, sure.

Comment by Hivewired on Occam's Guillotine · 2020-03-25T17:41:37.409Z · LW · GW

I was considering something like a bike 'assistance'

A bike is a form of mechanical leverage assistance that allows us to reach speeds we would not otherwise be able to with the human body. Similarly, hang glider wings and the like are a form of mechanical leverage that allows us to fly when we would not otherwise be able to with the human body. Humans are kind of pathetic without technology, we can't do so much as push a nail into a piece of wood without some form of mechanical assistance.

Comment by Hivewired on Occam's Guillotine · 2020-03-25T17:29:16.969Z · LW · GW

I can see the basis of arguments that ethics could not be solved with hard science, I disagree with them but they at least have some basis. But psychology? Really? Are human beings not part of reality? Are human brains just magical boxes beyond our mortal comprehension? The hard problems of consciousness will be solved eventually. Cognitive neuroscience is making strong strides. Once we have a map of the connectome we'll be well on our way to really understanding how brains work. Psychology should absolutely be treated as a hard science.

Comment by Hivewired on Occam's Guillotine · 2020-03-25T16:54:21.045Z · LW · GW

" it's obvious that designing a society also involves solving questions outside the hard sciences"

these questions should not be outside the hard sciences, that's the point Alfred Korzybski was making all the way back in 1921. There's no reason we shouldn't be trying to treat ethics and psychology like hard sciences.

Comment by Hivewired on How effective are tulpas? · 2020-03-13T19:12:08.436Z · LW · GW

I'm actually working on a post for that, but writing it has been rather hard.

Comment by Hivewired on How effective are tulpas? · 2020-03-11T23:38:09.636Z · LW · GW

Not since I've updated around keeping my identity small. I intend to but my writing queue is quite long at this point.

Comment by Hivewired on Sleepwalking Toward Armageddon · 2020-03-11T16:08:32.383Z · LW · GW

These are sufficiently good questions that I want to research them and I'll get back to you.

Comment by Hivewired on How effective are tulpas? · 2020-03-10T17:49:52.414Z · LW · GW

I think what I'm describing here is a bit more advanced in terms of internal rearrangement than "simple mental parts"

Comment by Hivewired on How effective are tulpas? · 2020-03-10T15:31:17.206Z · LW · GW

There's two ways to do tulpas. There's the right way, and the way most people do it.

The right way is to do it from a place of noself/keeping your identity small. Don't treat your tulpa like a separate person any more than you would treat your internal sense of self like a separate person. Treat them like a handle for manipulating and interacting with a particular module/thought structure/part of your mind, taking unconscious and automatic things and shining a bit of Sys2 light on them. Basically using the tulpa as a label for a particular thought structure that either already exists, or that you want to exist in your head, allowing you to think about it in a manner that is more conscious and less automatic.

Doing this correctly gives you a greater degree of write-access to various semiconscious/subconscious parts of your head and makes it easier to retrain automatic response patterns. This could be considered in the same vein as how Harry uses his various house characters in HPMOR, although he just scrapes the top level with them and doesn't use them to really change himself in useful ways like he could potentially be doing. This way is also harder than the way most people do tulpamancy because it requires ripping apart and rebuilding your conception of your original self with a goal for greater functionality. It also requires keeping your identity small and internalizing the idea of noself in a way that most people don't want to do.

Then there's the way most people do tulpamancy, which is to build the tulpa out of identity and treat it like an entirely separate person who "lives in your head with you" and who has an equal say in decisions as "you." From the perspective of having internalized noself/keep your identity small, this is exactly as dumb as it sounds and looks. "Hey what if you destroyed your self control by handing it off to a random agent that you fabricate" or "Hey what if you created an internal narrative where you're powerless in your own head and your self is forced to argue and compete and try to negotiate with some other random self for processing time and mental real estate?"

Some people say tulpas can learn other skills and be better at them. Others say they've never lost an argument with their tulpa. Tulpas can be evil. Tulpas are slavish pawns. Tulpas can take over your body, tulpas never take over bodies. Tulpas can do homework. Tulpas can't do math.

Most people do identity-style tulpamancy, and that's where all this contradictory and at times really messed up behavior comes from.

An out-of-control dark rationalist tulpa that fights me for mental and physical control sound absolutely terrifying.

Right, so how does this happen? It happens because there are narrative layers that you're using (right now) to define what you can do in your own head, and that narrative layer is the thing being modified by tulpamancy. The problem is most people don't consciously try to modify that layer, they assume the way that layer works is some objective fact, argue about its properties with other tulpamancers online, and don't think about trying to change it.

The more power they handoff from their conscious mind to that narrative layer, the more "independent" the tulpa will seem at the cost of making the original self increasingly powerless within their own mind.

Intentionally grabbing hold of that narrative layer and modifying that such that stuff like multiple selves and the like are simply downstream results of upstream modifications will result in a much more cooperative and internally stable system since you can define the stability and the interactions as part of the design instead of just letting some unconscious process do it for you.

So basically, tulpamancy can be useful and result in greater functionality and agency, but only if done from a place of noself and keeping your identity small. If you haven't worked on grinding noself and keeping your identity small, that should definitely be the first thing you do. When finished, then possibly return to tulpamancy if you still feel like there's room to improve with it.

Comment by Hivewired on Even if your Voice Shakes · 2020-03-07T19:35:50.836Z · LW · GW

Did I actually do the right thing here? I honestly couldn’t tell you. There’s certainly an argument that could be made that I didn’t fully think through the consequences of my actions or what effect they would have on me. There’s also an argument that could be made that my defiance was rather pointless since the olive bar is still open, and if I was going to do something that crazy, I should have saved it for when I knew it would make a difference.

The problem is that barring near-omniscience you can’t really know when that will be, all you can do is play your hand and let the cards fall where they may. Would I have still tried to do this knowing everything I do now? Probably not. Not because of the consequences to myself, but because it didn’t end up working. The olive bar remains open so my act of defiance didn’t accomplish what I set out to do. If it had resulted in the olive bar being closed, I think I would have done it despite the consequences. Maybe there was something else I could have done to force the issue more, maybe I should have tried to outright sabotage the cooling mechanisms, maybe I should have called the local news, maybe I should have tried to convince my coworkers to go along with it to make it harder for them to get rid of the problem person, I really don’t know and hindsight is 2020. It’s always easier to tell after it’s too late to matter.

Comment by Hivewired on Even if your Voice Shakes · 2020-03-06T21:04:16.335Z · LW · GW

Yeah I'll PM it to you, I didn't want to list it on the blog because it has my legal name attached to it.

Comment by Hivewired on Time Binders · 2020-02-27T05:58:31.895Z · LW · GW

Shorter definitely seems better. Ideally I think there'd be a version that was less than a hundred pages. Something as short and concise as possible. Do we really need to list every cognitive bias to explain rationality? How much is really necessary and how much can be cut?

Comment by Hivewired on Jan Bloch's Impossible War · 2020-02-24T20:54:27.679Z · LW · GW

Thank you so much for pointing this out, this is what I get for skimping on research in places, the next drafts of this post will be edited to change this.

Comment by Hivewired on Jan Bloch's Impossible War · 2020-02-24T09:58:01.488Z · LW · GW

My blog is about the only thing I have going for me at the moment, so I'd really prefer to keep my essays on my own site where I could theoretically make a little money off of them.

Comment by Hivewired on Jan Bloch's Impossible War · 2020-02-19T02:48:23.401Z · LW · GW

There is presently no list of posts by date, however the sidebar should have all of the essays (aside from the two most recent ones I haven't added yet).

It's worth noting as well, a lot of my older posts aren't very good and a lot of them I don't fully endorse anymore. Sometime over the next few months I intend to go through and do a review of all my old content, find everything I no longer endorse and indicate that I've updated away from it. For now though, just be aware that everything from before the summer of 2018 is not going to be as good as the stuff that comes later, since that was prior to my major identity death and rebirth event.

Comment by Hivewired on Jan Bloch's Impossible War · 2020-02-17T20:38:41.658Z · LW · GW

Sure! I'd be willing to do that.

How would I set that up, and is there anything I would need to change retroactively?

Comment by Hivewired on [deleted post] 2017-10-08T22:55:36.556Z

There have been a bunch of different potential names thrown around for this phenomena, and narrativemancy always seemed like the weakest contender out of them. The Thing definitely involves narratives, don't get me wrong, but narrativemancy is just...unaesthetic, and I feel like it misses something?

I generally refer to this idea as metamancy. I do also feel as if your approach, while solid, tends to overgeneralize, and there are times where it is instrumentally useful to temporarily believe in things that don't cleave to reality at all.

Comment by Hivewired on Bi-Weekly Rational Feed · 2017-05-28T20:34:13.156Z · LW · GW

Oh hey look. Also, we have an account here now, wew.