His current rudeness is quite transparent, really. Sure, he's making LW users aware of the hellban, but he's also purposely being as obnoxious as possible while doing it.

You're one of those people who believes any opinion that disagrees with yours constitutes "rudenness" aren't you.

Exactly. Eugine/Azathoth/Ra/Lion was already sufficiently transparently banned in 2014.

He either didn't get the memo, or he pretends to be dumb for the sake of scaremongering, or maybe he actually is delusional. I don't care which one; the outcome is the same.

and believes in a strong hierarchy. Well, the mods are above you in the heirarchy, so respect their authority!

LOL. NRx are not stupid :-)

Without going into the NRx approach, let me point out that even entirely traditional feudal power structures made power conditional on responsibility. The lord had power over his serfs and vassals, but he also had to protect them and aid them. A lord who abandoned his responsibilities abandoned his claim to power as well.

In practice, of course, things varied :-D

Cynical hypothesis: neoreactionaries believe in a strong hierarchy and look back with fondness on historical periods when there has been one -- but when they look either forward or back they imagine themselves near the top of the hierarchy, and it's from that perspective that they judge it to be good.

I think an interesting aspect here is that Eugine/Azeroth/Ra/Lion is a neoreactionary and believes in a strong hierarchy. Well, the mods are above you in the heirarchy, so respect their authority!

OTOH, an nrx might argue that the strength of the authority must be continually tested by fighting it. Their ideal society is a struggle of all against all, all the time. Respect is but the acknowledgement of another's greater power, to be granted for only so long as they actually have it, and only to their face, as a polite ritual. They would argue that this is the essential nature of all society, and that only the weak pretend otherwise, the weak being everyone but them and their heroes from history. The strong do what they will and the weak bear what they must. Strength is the only real virtue, all others being but idle amusements of the leisure that only strength can provide.

BTW, IIRC some people have made the same point (not sure how seriously) on SSC after people complained that Scott had banned a few neoreactionaries.

I've heard "shadowban" quite a few times. I agree that "hellban" is an odd term.

I guess I agree, but we weren't the ones who named it.

The_Lion is (at least) the fourth incarnation of an LW user who has been around for some time. Why the fourth incarnation? Because the other three got banned for abusing the karma system. There is also some reason to suspect that The_Lion has also been using sockpuppet accounts to vote up his own comments (but so far as I know all there is here is suspicion, whereas the karma-abuse -- downvoting hundreds of old comments from users who have annoyed him, usually by differing from him politically -- has been verified).

A hellban is something moderators can do on some forums, where a user's posts or comments are visible to them but invisible to everyone else. Hellbans are most often applied to (actual or suspected) spammers and other generators of very low-quality stuff. The idea is that if you just make them unable to post, they'll just make another account, but if you quietly make what they post invisible to everyone else, they may not notice.

It appears that someone hellbanned The_Lion, probably more on account of his comments about black people than of his other activities (there is reason to think he's been engaging in the same sort of karma-abuse as The_Lion as he did as Eugine_Nier, Azathoth123 and VoiceOfRa, but hellbanning won't do much to stop that).

This was never going to work well for someone active and paying attention, and especially not for someone with a lot of sockpuppets. (Of course that's easy to say in hindsight.) The hellban has apparently been undone now.

Between the imposition and the lifting of the hellban, the user behind The_Lion noticed the hellban, made a new account, used it to post new copies of all his comments, and posted this complaint.

Does that help?

A hell ban is a colloquial term for a ban that prevents the user from knowing that they're banned; their comments appear as normal to themselves, but are invisible to everyone else.

It's designed so that the person so afflicted doesn't notice they've been banned. It has a striking limitation, however; it doesn't work on people who have alternate accounts who regularly, ahem, go look at their main accounts comments, since they'll see that their comments aren't there.

+7 karma in 5 minutes, nice.

The comments are still banned, so it's unclear what you are talking about (maybe they were banned, unbanned and banned again?). If the account's posting rights were previously revoked and then given back, it's implausible Eliezer could be the one giving you the posting rights, right in the middle of this post. It's strange how the parent comment got 40 upvotes (and 20 downvotes), seems too many for a sane manual sockpuppet farm. Anti-moderation faction?

Anyway, banning the copies of banned comments posted as The_Lion2. Neutral on the original moderator's decision, but against such workarounds.

Why on earth did they give into this? Please ip ban this asshat and everyone who's ever upvoted his comments.

Your other comments still don't show up in their original context or in my inbox (though they do in your overview page).

Meh, I'm going to reply to the The_Lion2 copies instead.