Any tips for eliciting one's own latent knowledge? 2022-07-13T21:12:13.542Z
Nature abhors an immutable replicator... usually 2022-07-03T15:08:32.611Z
Who is this MSRayne person anyway? 2022-07-01T17:32:59.525Z
MSRayne's Shortform 2022-06-29T19:22:30.685Z
My cognitive inertia cycle 2022-06-26T15:49:17.661Z
Mitigating the damage from unaligned ASI by cooperating with aliens that don't exist yet 2022-06-21T16:12:01.753Z
Perfectionism as depth-first search 2020-12-29T01:49:22.945Z


Comment by MSRayne on Would You Work Harder In The Least Convenient Possible World? · 2023-09-23T12:32:27.881Z · LW · GW

If I were Bob I'd have told her to fuck off long ago and stopped letting some random person berate me for being lazy just like my parents always have. This is basically guilt-tripping, not a beneficial way of approaching any kind of motivation, and it is absolutely guaranteed to produce pushback. But then, I'm probably not your target audience, am I?

Btw just to be clear, I think Said Achmiz explained my reaction better than I, who habitually post short reddit-tier responses, can. My specific issue is that Alice seems to be acting as if it's any of her business what Bob does. It is not. Absolutely nobody likes being told they're not being ethical enough. It's why everyone hates vegans. As someone who doesn't like experiencing such judgmental demands, I would have the kneejerk emotional reaction to want to become less of an EA just to spite her. (I would not of course act on this reaction, but I would start finding EA things to be in an ugh field because they remind me of the distress caused by this interaction.)

Comment by MSRayne on Unifying Bargaining Notions (2/2) · 2023-09-13T02:07:47.869Z · LW · GW

Holy heck I have been enlightened. And by contemplating nothingness too! Thanks for the clarification, it all makes sense now.

Comment by MSRayne on Unifying Bargaining Notions (2/2) · 2023-09-11T16:11:04.820Z · LW · GW

I really enjoy this sequence but there's a sticking point that's making me unable to continue until I figure it out. It seems to me rather obvious that... utility functions are not shift-invariant! If I denominate option A at 1 utilon and option B at 2 utilons, that means I am indifferent between a certain outcome of A and a 50% probability of B - and this is no longer the case if I shift my utility function even slightly. Ratios of utilities mean something concrete and are destroyed by translation. Since your entire argument seems to rest on that inexplicably not being the case, I can't see how any of this is useful.

Comment by MSRayne on AI romantic partners will harm society if they go unregulated · 2023-08-20T12:40:48.670Z · LW · GW

I understand all this logically, but my emotional brain asks, "Yeah, but why should I care about any of that? I want what I want. I don't want to grow, or improve myself, or learn new perspectives, or bring others joy. I want to feel good all the time with minimal effort."

When wireheading - real wireheading, not the creepy electrode in the brain sort that few people would actually accept - is presented to you, it is very hard to reject it, particularly if you have a background of trauma or neurodivergence that makes coping with "real life" difficult to begin with, which is why so many people with brains like mine end up as addicts. Actually, by some standards, I am an addict, just not of any physical substance.

And to be honest, as a risk-averse person, it's hard for me to rationally argue for why I ought to interact with other people when AIs are better, except the people I already know, trust, and care about. Like, where exactly is my duty to "grow" (from other people's perspective, by other people's definitions, because they tell me I ought to do it) supposed to be coming from? The only thing that motivates me, sometimes, to try to do growth-and-self-improvement things is guilt. And I'm actually a pretty hard person to guilt into doing things.

Comment by MSRayne on AI romantic partners will harm society if they go unregulated · 2023-08-01T21:31:30.279Z · LW · GW

That's a temporary problem. Robot bodies will eventually be good enough. And I've been a virgin for nearly 26 years, I can wait a decade or two longer till there's something worth downloading an AI companion into if need be.

Comment by MSRayne on What Is Childhood Supposed To Be? · 2023-08-01T21:23:58.991Z · LW · GW

Neither of these really describes what childhood is for. Both of them are inventions of the modern WEIRD society. I'd suggest you read "Anthropology of Childhood: Cherubs, Chattels, Changelings" for a wider view on the subject... it's pretty bleak though. The very idea that there is such a thing as an optimal childhood parents ought to strive to provide their children... is also a modern, Western, extremely unusual idea, and throughout most of history, in most cultures, they were just... little creatures that would eventually be adults and till then either got in the way or were used for something.

The norm appears to be "benevolent neglect", at best - that is, children are not (outside of our Western bubble of reality, as well as East Asia which independently invented some of the same norms) actively taught or guided towards anything; mostly they are ignored and they teach themselves everything they need to know by mimicking adults. People spend time with their children, but it's rarely a goal explicitly striven for (the way it is for Western parents); it's just a side effect of their existing at all.

Comment by MSRayne on AI romantic partners will harm society if they go unregulated · 2023-08-01T18:29:22.638Z · LW · GW

To be honest, I look forward to AI partners. I have a hard time seeing the point of striving to have a "real" relationship with another person, given that no two people are really perfectly compatible, no one can give enough of their time and attention to really satisfy a neverending desire for connection, etc. I expect AIs to soon enough be better romantic companions - better companions in all ways - than humans are. Why shouldn't I prefer them?

Comment by MSRayne on Cultivating a state of mind where new ideas are born · 2023-07-29T02:52:18.259Z · LW · GW

Great, apparently I'm in just the right place... I'm always alone and have few friends who might influence me to give up my wacky ideas! Wonderful.....


Comment by MSRayne on Boundary Placement Rebellion · 2023-07-21T12:48:54.799Z · LW · GW

Those stories are surprisingly coherent and compelling. They were actually fun to read!

I'm not sure how useful the concept of boundary placement rebellion is, though. It certainly is a thing, but it's also something basically everyone engages in. I pretty much constantly do it... though maybe that says more about me than anything...

Comment by MSRayne on Slack matters more than any outcome · 2023-07-18T13:35:53.575Z · LW · GW

"Thou strivest ever. Even in thy yielding, thou strivest to yield; and lo! thou yieldest not. Go thou into the outermost places, and subdue all things. Subdue thy fear and thy distrust. And then - YIELD." - Aleister Crowley

Comment by MSRayne on The Seeker’s Game – Vignettes from the Bay · 2023-07-10T15:37:55.215Z · LW · GW

I'm never really sure what there's any point in saying. My main interests have nothing to do with AI alignment, which seems to be the primary thing people talk about here. And a lot of my thoughts require the already existing context of my previous thoughts. Honestly, it's difficult for me to communicate what's going on in my head to anyone.

Comment by MSRayne on The Seeker’s Game – Vignettes from the Bay · 2023-07-10T13:41:11.830Z · LW · GW

No, it's called "lying". The text that he produces as a result of these social pressures does not reflect his actual thought processes. You can't judge a belief on the basis of a bunch of ex post facto arguments people make up to rationalize it - the method by which they came to hold the belief is much more informative, and for those of us with very roundabout styles of thinking (such as myself) being forced into this self-censorship and modification of our thought patterns into something "coherent" and easy to read actually destroys all the evidence of how we actually came to the idea, and thus destroys much of your ability to effectively examine its validity!

Comment by MSRayne on The Seeker’s Game – Vignettes from the Bay · 2023-07-10T13:39:05.012Z · LW · GW

I feel the same as Adrian and Cato. I am very much the opposite of a rigorous thinker - in fact, I am probably not capable of rigor - and I would like to be the person who spews loads of interesting off the wall ideas for others to parse through and expand upon those which are useful. But that kind of role doesn't seem to exist here and I feel very intimidated even writing comments, much less actual posts - which is why I rarely do. The feeling that I have to put tremendous labor into making a Proper Essay full of citations and links to sequences and detailed arguments and so on - it's just too much work and not worth the effort for something I don't even know anyone will care about.

Comment by MSRayne on Blanchard's Dangerous Idea and the Plight of the Lucid Crossdreamer · 2023-07-09T14:55:35.637Z · LW · GW

This makes me wonder if some proportion of "masculine" gay men are actually transwomen (of the early onset type) with autoandrophilia. I may even fit into that category myself. I didn't care about masculinity and in fact found it somewhat abhorrent and not-me-ish until I started getting off to more masculine looking guys in porn. (When I first saw porn when I was 12 I mainly focused on twinks and wanted to look like them, and there's still a part of me that feels that way, which wars with the part that wants to bulk up because masc dudes are also hot - and usually wins, because bulking is hard and I would rather read books.)

Of course, my natural femininity is not tremendous (I wasn't flamboyant as a child and as far as I know never have been - I've always thought feminine-acting men were creepy - but I did flirt with identifying as nonbinary during my late teens, and used to have multiple female alters during the period where I thought I had multiple personalities), and most of my femininity is the result of misandry taught by the media and my mother (I believed for most of my childhood and early teens that masculinity is disgusting and bestial, and that only women can be powerful / noble, but later realized that like all other disgusting and bestial things, masculinity is sexy as fuck, which helped me get out of my misandry phase.)

Nowadays I think my gender identity is probably something like "true hermaphrodite / omega (as in the omegaverse fanfiction trope) male", which unfortunately is not something that one can currently medically transition to, and I experience no dysphoria (and to be honest, the only reason I think it would be cool to have both male and female genitals is because it seems too asymmetric and unbalanced not to, and I'm very Libra [yes I know astrology isn't real, but it's still a helpful and / or fun language to describe personalities with]).

Well - actually, it's possible I do experience dysphoria, but in which direction changes with my mood (I sometimes don't feel masculine enough), and there's an element of The Paraphilia Which Must Not Be Named [note: if you ask me, I will not name it, and I will neither confirm nor deny guesses, but you can probably figure it out based on what I'm not saying] which also interacts in weird ways with the whole thing, and overall I just find gender and sexuality stuff tiresome and confusing and sort of wish I didn't have to deal with it.

Thanks for coming to my rambly asf TED talk.

Comment by MSRayne on Man in the Arena · 2023-06-27T12:31:17.259Z · LW · GW

This is interesting, and imo dystopian and dreadful, but it doesn't belong on Lesswrong. I downvoted.

Comment by MSRayne on My tentative best guess on how EAs and Rationalists sometimes turn crazy · 2023-06-21T11:44:54.252Z · LW · GW

I feel like consequentialists are more likely to go crazy due to not being grounded in deontological or virtue-ethical norms of proper behavior. It's easy to think that if you're on track to saving the world, you should be able to do whatever is necessary, however heinous, to achieve that goal. I didn't learn to stop seeing people as objects until I leaned away from consequentialism and toward the anarchist principle of unity of means and ends (which is probably related to the categorical imperative). E.g. I want to live in a world where people are respected as individuals, so I have to respect them as individuals - whereas maximizing individual-respect might lead me to do all sorts of weird things to people now in return for some vague notion of helping lots more future people.

Comment by MSRayne on Endo-, Dia-, Para-, and Ecto-systemic novelty · 2023-06-20T12:16:15.978Z · LW · GW

I was about to mention Piaget, but you referred to him at the end of the post. Definitely seems relevant, since we noticed the possible connection independently.

Comment by MSRayne on Some Thoughts on Virtue Ethics for AIs · 2023-06-20T11:46:42.794Z · LW · GW

This reminds me strongly of the anarchist principle of unity of means and ends, which is why anarchists aren't into violent revolution anymore - you can't end coercion by coercive means.

Comment by MSRayne on The ants and the grasshopper · 2023-06-06T23:08:48.800Z · LW · GW

Ooh! I don't know much about the theory of reinforcement learning, could you explain that more / point me to references? (Also, this feels like it relates to the real reason for the time-value of money: money you supposedly will get in the future always has a less than 100% chance of actually reaching you, and is thus less valuable than money you have now.)

Comment by MSRayne on The ants and the grasshopper · 2023-06-06T11:30:17.460Z · LW · GW

It seems to me that the optimal schedule by which to use up your slack / resources is based on risk. When planning for the future, there's always the possibility that some unknown unknown interferes. When maximizing the total Intrinsically Good Stuff you get to do, you have to take into account timelines where all the ants' planning is for nought and the grasshopper actually has the right idea. It doesn't seem right to ever have zero credence of this (as that means being totally certain that the project of saving up resources for cosmic winter will go perfectly smoothly, and we can't be certain of something that will literally take trillions of years), therefore it is actually optimal to always put some of your resources into living for right now, proportional to that uncertainty about the success of the project.

Comment by MSRayne on Humans don't understand how we do most things · 2023-06-05T17:14:55.195Z · LW · GW

computers have no consciousness

Um... citation please?

Comment by MSRayne on [Fiction] A Disneyland Without Children · 2023-06-05T16:31:56.516Z · LW · GW

1. Who are the customers actually buying all these products so that the auto-corporations can profit? They cannot keep their soulless economy going without someone to sell to, and if it's other AIs, why are those AIs buying when they can't actually use the products themselves?

2. What happened to the largest industry in developed countries, the service industry, which fundamentally relies on having an actual sophont customer to serve? (And again, if it's AIs, who the hell created AIs that exist solely to receive services they cannot actually enjoy, and how did they make money by doing that?)

3. Why didn't shareholders divest from auto-corporations upon realizing that they were likely to lead to ruin? (Don't say "they didn't realize it till too late", because you, right now, know it's a bad idea, and you don't even have money on the line.)

I ask these because, to be honest, I think this scenario is extremely far-fetched and unlikely. The worst thing that would happen if auto-corporations become a thing, in my mental model, is that existing economic inequalities would be permanently exacerbated due to the insane wealth accrued by their shareholders - because the only currently likely route to AGI, large language models, already understand what we actually mean when we say to maximize shareholder value, and won't paperclip-maximize, because they're not stupid, and they use language the same way humans do.

Comment by MSRayne on Co-found an incubator for independent AI Safety researchers (rolling applications) · 2023-06-03T11:49:16.839Z · LW · GW

I've never had a job in my life - yes really, I've had a rather strange life so far, it's complicated - but I've been reading and thinking about topics which I now know are related to operations for years, trying to design (in my head...) a system for distributing the work of managing a complex organization across a totally decentralized group so that no one is in charge, with the aid of AI and a social media esque interface. (I've never actually made the thing, because I keep finding new things I need to know, and I'm not a software engineer, just a designer.)

So, I think I have some parts of the requisite skillset here, and a ton of intuition about how to run systems efficiently built up from all the independent studying I've done - but absolutely no prior experience with basically anything in reality, except happening to (I believe) have the right personality for operations work. Should I bother applying?

Comment by MSRayne on Sentience matters · 2023-06-02T11:05:40.097Z · LW · GW

I don't know what to think about all that. I don't know how to determine what the line is between having qualia and not. I just feel certain that any organism with a brain sufficiently similar to those of humans - certainly all mammals, birds, reptiles, fish, cephalopods, and arthropods - has some sort of internal experience. I'm less sure about things like jellyfish and the like. I suppose the intuition probably comes from the fact that the entities I mentioned seem to actively orient themselves in the world, but it's hard to say.

I don't feel comfortable speculating which AIs have qualia, or if any do at all - I am not convinced of functionalism and suspect that consciousness has something to do with the physical substrate, primarily because I can't imagine how consciousness can be subjectively continuous (one of its most fundamental traits in my experience!) in the absence of a continuously inhabited brain (rather than being a program that can be loaded in and out of anything, and copied endlessly many times, with no fixed temporal relation between subjective moments.)

Comment by MSRayne on TinyStories: Small Language Models That Still Speak Coherent English · 2023-05-31T19:02:17.572Z · LW · GW

I don't know anything about colab, other than that the colab notebooks I've found online take a ridiculously long time to load, often have mysterious errors, and annoy the hell out of me. I don't know enough AI-related coding stuff to use it on my own. I just want something plug and play, which is why I mainly rely on KoboldAI, Open Assistant, etc.

Comment by MSRayne on Sentience matters · 2023-05-31T18:58:40.899Z · LW · GW

We're not talking about sapience though, we're talking about sentience. Why does the ability to think have any moral relevance? Only possessing qualia, being able to suffer or have joy, is relevant, and most animals likely possess that. I don't understand the distinctions you're making in your other comment. There is one, binary distinction that matters: is there something it is like to be this thing, or is there not? If yes, its life is sacred, if no, it is an inanimate object. The line seems absolutely clear to me. Eating fish or shrimp is bad for the same reasons that eating cows or humans is. They are all on the exact same moral level to me. The only meaningful dimension of variation is how complex their qualia are - I'd rather eat entities with less complex qualia over those with more, if I have to choose. But I don't think the differences are that strong.

Comment by MSRayne on Sentience matters · 2023-05-30T11:43:38.937Z · LW · GW

Just to be That Guy I'd like to also remind everyone that animal sentience means vegetarianism, at the very least (and because of the intertwined nature of the dairy, egg, and meat industries, most likely veganism) is a moral imperative, to the extent that your ethical values incorporate sentience at all. Also, I'd go further to say that uplifting to sophonce those animals that we can, once we can at some future time, is also a moral imperative, but that relies on reasoning and values I hold that may not be self-evident to others, such as that increasing the agency of an entity that isn't drastically misaligned with other entities is fundamentally good.

Comment by MSRayne on Wikipedia as an introduction to the alignment problem · 2023-05-30T11:40:11.972Z · LW · GW

Most Wikipedia readers spend less than a minute on a page?? I always read pages all the way through... even if they're about something that doesn't interest me much...

Comment by MSRayne on kuira's Shortform · 2023-05-30T11:37:01.087Z · LW · GW

Welcome! And yes, this is a thing people have talked about a lot, particularly in the context of outer versus inner alignment (the outer optimizer, evolution, designed an inner optimizer, humans, who optimize for different things, like pleasure etc, than evolution does, but ended up effectively becoming a "singularity" from its point of view). It's cool that you noticed this on your own!

Comment by MSRayne on TinyStories: Small Language Models That Still Speak Coherent English · 2023-05-30T11:33:13.496Z · LW · GW

This is my thought exactly. I would try it, but I am poor and don't even have a GPU lol. This is something I'd love to see tested.

Comment by MSRayne on TinyStories: Small Language Models That Still Speak Coherent English · 2023-05-29T13:59:05.637Z · LW · GW

So basically... LMs have to learn language in the exact same way human children do: start by grasping the essentials and then work upward to complex meanings and information structures.

Comment by MSRayne on Mob and Bailey · 2023-05-26T00:04:25.931Z · LW · GW

This is a fantastically good point. I've often seen this failure mode and not had a name for it, such as when someone I know complains about his political opponents having a self-contradictory ideology - I always have to correct him that in fact, different people in roughly the same camp are contradicting one another, but each individual perspective is self-consistent. Now I have a name for that phenomenon!

Comment by MSRayne on Nature abhors an immutable replicator... usually · 2023-05-24T05:21:28.037Z · LW · GW

I'm not a biologist either. This post is me handwaving. Thanks for the reference!

Comment by MSRayne on Twiblings, four-parent babies and other reproductive technology · 2023-05-22T11:31:45.830Z · LW · GW

Humans are not eusocial. That was Edward O. Wilson being dramatic. We don't have a biological caste distinction between reproducers and non-reproducers.

Comment by MSRayne on Twiblings, four-parent babies and other reproductive technology · 2023-05-22T11:28:13.453Z · LW · GW

That's really weird. Why do you identify so strongly with a sequence of nucleotides? Isn't it more important that a child inherits your memes?

Comment by MSRayne on Trust develops gradually via making bids and setting boundaries · 2023-05-21T12:02:50.836Z · LW · GW

That paper about economic drivers of biological complexity is fascinating! In particular I am amazed I never noticed that lekking is an auction. The paper lends some credence to my intuition that capitalism is actually isomorphic to the natural state. Are you the Phelps that was involved in writing it?

Also: I wonder if you'd be interested in my vague notion that genes trade with one another using mutability as a currency.

Comment by MSRayne on Collective Identity · 2023-05-18T11:08:31.941Z · LW · GW

I've long thought that a "humans+AIs hive mind" would end up being the superintelligence in control of the future - not a purely AI one - so this is a great question and I'm glad to see people researching this!

Comment by MSRayne on We learn long-lasting strategies to protect ourselves from danger and rejection · 2023-05-17T03:19:12.679Z · LW · GW

The only counterintuitive thing about this post is that you expect the readers to find it counterintuitive! It's pretty obvious to those of us who remember our childhoods and have enough self-awareness to notice ourselves reliving them over and over...

Comment by MSRayne on How do AI timelines affect how you live your life? · 2023-05-08T18:13:43.321Z · LW · GW

To a limited extent, I have begun to the past month or so. Staying on a friend's organic farm. It's not much, but it's something. I definitely feel healthier, physically and emotionally. But less time to think. So it's a tradeoff.

Comment by MSRayne on What Boston Can Teach Us About What a Woman Is · 2023-05-02T11:41:28.190Z · LW · GW

This reminds me strongly of Wittgenstein's notion of "family resemblances" as a more reasonable replacement for definitions. The way mental illnesses are diagnosed in the DSM is similar - if you have X out of N possible symptoms, then you have the disease. Maybe womanhood (forgive my comparison with a disease!) is similar nowadays.

Comment by MSRayne on Catching the Eye of Sauron · 2023-04-07T12:52:43.757Z · LW · GW

Eliezer, or somebody better at talking to humans than him, needs to go on conservative talk shows - like, Fox News kind of stuff - use conservative styles of language, and explain AI safety there. Conservatives are intrinsically more likely to care about this stuff, and to get the arguments why inviting alien immigrants from other realms of mindspace into our reality - which will also take all of our jobs - is a bad idea. Talk up the fact that the AGI arms race is basically as bad as a second cold war only this time the "bombs" could destroy all of human civilization forever, and that anyone who develops it should be seen internationally as a terrorist who is risking the national security of every country on the planet.

To avoid the topic becoming polarized, someone else should at the same time go on liberal talk shows and explain how unaligned AGI, or even AGI aligned to some particular ideological group, is the greatest risk of fascism in human history and could be used to permanently lock the planet into the worst excesses of capitalism, fundamentalism, oppression, and other evils, besides the fact that (and this is one of the better arguments for abortion) it is immoral to bring a child (including AGI) into the world without being very sure that it will have a good life (and most people will not think that being addicted to paperclips is a good life).

Comment by MSRayne on 10 reasons why lists of 10 reasons might be a winning strategy · 2023-04-07T00:51:57.684Z · LW · GW

11. I like asking LLMs to write me lists of interesting things, please add more training data for that.

Comment by MSRayne on The Friendly Drunk Fool Alignment Strategy · 2023-04-03T13:20:27.052Z · LW · GW

I looked at the voting algorithm thing. Far too complicated and unpleasant even to read the options. No one is going to bother. You'd be better off just using score voting.

Comment by MSRayne on The Friendly Drunk Fool Alignment Strategy · 2023-04-03T02:08:16.131Z · LW · GW

The hilarious thing is that if LLMs are aligned by default, all this could actually be true.

Comment by MSRayne on Some thought experiments on digital consciousness · 2023-04-01T18:58:46.532Z · LW · GW

I'm a terrible contrarian whose intuition tells me that consciousness actually is fundamentally substrate dependent and that all minds run on a von neumann computer are philosophical zombies. I don't believe in functionalism. But I don't know how to argue for this. Honestly, it's not obvious to me how to think philosophically about consciousness at all. Thought experiments like the ones you mention here though just increase my sense of "yeah, consciousness probably is not computation, though I don't know what it is."

Comment by MSRayne on Correcting a misconception: consciousness does not need 90 billion neurons, at all · 2023-04-01T02:56:58.871Z · LW · GW

What is evidence of consciousness, then?

Comment by MSRayne on The Social Recession: By the Numbers · 2023-03-31T14:19:57.816Z · LW · GW

I don't think it is plausible that there is such a high natural rate of non-cishet people in the human species. I think this is an example of "Born This Way" being bullshit and culture actually modifying people's sexual and gender identity during sensitive imprinting periods in childhood. (Before you call me a homophobe, I'm LGBT myself, and I am pretty sure it actually is partly because of childhood experiences.)

Comment by MSRayne on The Social Recession: By the Numbers · 2023-03-30T22:02:56.082Z · LW · GW

That is... kinda shocking to me, tbh. Why would it have increased that much? This has to be cultural influence.

Comment by MSRayne on The Rationalist Guide to Hinduism · 2023-03-30T01:30:02.254Z · LW · GW

This is nice, but all this information is available on Wikipedia, and you never actually bothered to explain why rationalists ought to care about Hinduism in the first place. I happen to be very fond of Kashmiri Shaivism, due to my own spiritual experiences mysteriously having led me to nearly replicate its theology (though with different names, symbols, etc of course, since I'm a white American!) as a teen. Maybe someday I'll have the courage to write a post on here about how I manage to be a rationalist and a gnostic theist at the same time. But it's unlikely to appeal to most readers.

Comment by MSRayne on Will people be motivated to learn difficult disciplines and skills without economic incentive? · 2023-03-29T14:47:25.294Z · LW · GW

Because there is no coherent we. Moloch rules the earth, alongside Mammon. The enslavement of humanity benefits many corporate egregores.