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I beta tested a new movement building format last night: online networking. It seems to have legs.

V quick theory of change: 
> problem to solves: not enough people in AIS across Australia (especially) and New Zealand are meeting each other (this is bad for the movement and people's impact).
> we need to brute force serendipity to create collabs.
> this initiative has v low cost

quantitative results:
> I purposefully didn't market it hard because it was a beta. I literally got more people that I hoped for
> 22 RSVPs and 18 attendees
> this says to me I could easily get 40+
> average score for below question was 7.27, which is very good for a beta test

I used Zoom, which was extremely clunky. These results suggest to me I should;
> invest software designed for this use case, not zoom 

> segment by career stream (governance vs technical) and/or experience (beginner vs advanced)
> run it every second month

I have heaps of qualitative feedback from participants but don't have time to share it here.

Email me if interested: yanni@aisafetyanz.com.au

I mean like a dozen people have now had long comment threads with you about this. I doubt this one is going to cross this seemingly large inferential gap.

I think it's still useful to ask for concise reasons for certain beliefs. "The Fundamental Question of Rationality is: "Why do you believe what you believe?"". 

Your reasons could be different from the reasons other people give, and indeed, some of your reasons seem to be different from what I've heard from many others.

The short answer is that from the perspective of AI it really sucks to have basically all property be owned by humans

For what it's worth, I don't think humans need to own basically all property in order for AIs to obey property rights. A few alternatives come to mind: humans could have a minority share of the wealth, and AIs could have property rights with each other.

Thanks for the summary of various models of how to figure out what to work on. While reading it, I couldn't help but focus on my frustration about the "getting paid for it" part. Personally, I want to create a new programming language. I think we are still in the dark age of computer programming and that programming languages suck. I can't make a perfect language, but I can take a solid step in the right direction. The world could sure use a better programming language if you ask me. I'm passionate about this project. I'm a skilled software developer with a longer career than all the young guns I see. I think I've proved with my work so far that I am a top-tier language designer capable of writing a compiler and standard library. But...... this is almost the definition of something you can't and won't be paid for. At least not until you've already published a successful language. That fact greatly contributes to why we can't have better programming languages. No one can afford to let them incubate as long as needed. Because of limited resources, everyone has to push to release it as fast as possible. Unlike other software, languages have very strict backward compatibility requirements, so improving them is a challenge and inevitably leads to real issues as the language grows over time. However, they can never fix previous mistakes or address design changes needed to support new features.

Anthropics [? · GW]

This can be a great time-saver because it relies on each party to present the best possible case for their side. This means I don't have to do any evidence-gathering myself; I just need to evaluate the arguments presented, with that heuristic in mind. For example, if the pro-X side cites a bunch of sources in favor of X, but I look into them and find them unconvincing, then this is pretty good evidence against X, and I don't have to go combing through all the other sources myself. The mere existence of bad arguments for X is not in itself [LW · GW] evidence against X, but the fact that they're presented as the best possible arguments is.

Of course the problem is, outside of a legal proceeding, parties rarely have that strong an incentive to dig up the best possible arguments. Their time is limited as well, and they don't really suffer much consequence from failing to convince you. Also, the discussion medium might structurally impede the best arguments from being given (e.g. replies in a Twitter thread need to be posted quickly or else nobody will see them). Or worse yet, a skilled propaganda campaign can flood the zone with bad pro-X arguments from personages who appear to be pro-X but are secretly against it, knowing that the audience is going to be evaluating these arguments using the adversarial heuristic.

Decision Theory [? · GW]

Agent Foundations [? · GW]

Natural Latents [LW · GW]

Infra-Bayesianism [? · GW]

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